[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marc

Opinions differ Jack

Name me three things Sophie has contributed to this series that have caused a debate on the forums

I actually can't think of a single thing she's done, let alone said. At least Sam had a two day storyline with Jemima at the start of the series

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Jack_

At least Sam had a two day storyline with Jemima at the start of the series

And even that was dire.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Patrick

And even that was dire.

Oh I know he's still a bore, I'm just saying at least he had one minute storyline...she has had nothing. Not one single thing

I think the only debate that has been raised from her time in the house is 'what is her ****ing value to the series?'

They should both be out ASAP. A Dexter, Gina and Dan eviction would be the worst possible result for sure

[Vanessa]

For me the only ones who deserve to win are Gina, Dexter and Dan. The rest haven't contributed enough. Sam and Sophie have done nothing for weeks.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Isn't it sad that we all know this series is going to come to a sh*tty ending? Like it's next to impossible that a good housemate will win, because of the voting system.

I mean it's pretty much set in stone that either Sam or Sophie will win.

I know

It's pretty obvious all the big characters will be out soon and the final will be Sam, Sophie, the twins (if Jackie goes this week), Charlie and Callum

Dire, the best final line-up this series would've been Sallie, Gina, Dexter, Dan, Wolfy, Hazel

Originally Posted by Vanessa

For me the only ones who deserve to win are Gina, Dexter and Dan.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Name me three things Sophie has contributed to this series that have caused a debate on the forums

I actually can't think of a single thing she's done, let alone said. At least Sam had a two day storyline with Jemima at the start of the series

I'm sick of you going around this forum acting as if you have some sort of amazing insight on BB and therefore your opinions mean more than everybody else. I like Sophie, get over it.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marc

I'm sick of you going around this forum acting as if you have some sort of amazing insight on BB and therefore your opinions mean more than everybody else. I like Sophie, get over it.

Well that's a shame but you haven't actually answered the question though. I mean fair enough if you disagree but you could actually try and explain why you like her and what her value is to the show? That's what a debate is, I've no problem discussing each housemate's worth and if someone can persuade me otherwise I'll more than happily concede but simply saying 'get over it' isn't really resolving anything

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well that's a shame but you haven't actually answered the question though. I mean fair enough if you disagree but you could actually try and explain why you like her and what her value is to the show? That's what a debate is, I've no problem discussing each housemate's worth and if someone can persuade me otherwise I'll more than happily concede but simply saying 'get over it' isn't really resolving anything

Ever consider that I don't want to actually discuss it with you because your attitude towards anybody who you don't agree with is just patronising?

Sophie is a nice person who isn't a wannabe moron who only thinks of themself or goes around soaking up gossip like a sponge. If you can't actually see that it's possible for somebody to like somebody other than who you think should win then maybe it can't be resolved. I'm having my opinion and I won't be told that its wrong.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marc

Ever consider that I don't want to actually discuss it with you because your attitude towards anybody who you don't agree with is just patronising?

Sophie is a nice person who isn't a wannabe moron who only thinks of themself or goes around soaking up gossip like a sponge. If you can't actually see that it's possible for somebody to like somebody other than who you think should win then maybe it can't be resolved. I'm having my opinion and I won't be told that its wrong.

Well if that's how you feel then I apologise, I don't set out to patronise but I'm not going to lie I sure as hell stand by my opinions each series

I know she's a nice person, so is Sam. I'd probably want to be friends with them in real life, but it isn't real life and I'm not living with them, I'm watching them on an entertainment TV show...and they've done nothing to inspire anything interesting. I couldn't name you one thing either of them has said nevermind done, I don't see how it's a good thing for the show to have a house full of people that do or say nothing and to get rid of those who contribute?

You can have your opinion all you want, no one's saying you can't...but surely every opinion should be able to be justified and argued effectively or else it's pretty much rendered void? If a point can't be backed up then surely it is technically wrong? That's how a debate works...if someone said 'I think all gay people are murderers' and then couldn't back that up in a debate...well then they'd be wrong. If someone says 'what does this housemate contribute to the show?' and explains why contribution is important and the other person can't give any answer then surely it's the same scenario? I'm not trying to be patronising, I'm just trying to have a genuine debate...I really can't see what her worth is, but like I said if someone tells me otherwise then I would concede