[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I see people post this alot when someone changes their mind about who they like. Is it really fickleness or are these people more objective viewers and judge people by their actions in the house and from getting to know them better rather than stubbornly sticking by their chosen HM no matter what they say or do?

What do you think?

I think your right Niamh , sometimes I like someone, but go off them due to their actions I don't consider it fickle,what I do think is fickle is someone turning against a housemate just because they do not fall in with their fave,such as they like them,then because they have said or done something against their fave,they suddenly hate them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think your right Niamh , sometimes I like someone, but go off them due to their actions I don't consider it fickle,what I do think is fickle is someone turning against a housemate just because they do not fall in with their fave,such as they like them,then because they have said or done something against their fave,they suddenly hate them.

Yeah, absolutely agree with that

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Barker

Well I meant the notion of nominating their friends But fair enough, I guess it's all about consistency isn't it. I'd be disappointed in any housemates who were to nominate their friends, even if Hazel nominated Dan

See this is where you and me differ a lot. You see genuine friendships. I see it as mostly gameplaying. Not many of them stay in touch after the show ends..which kinda proves (in my mind at least) that its not real friendships. This is why I don;t get pissed about nominations..

The only time I care about them is when it becomes obvious that the group have just picked a target or two. BB10 was the worst for that

[Jemal]

Lol callum and Sam have a genuine friendship imo.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

Lol callum and Sam have a genuine friendship imo.

Yes thats probably the only actual friendship I see in there. Can see them staying in touch for a long time after the show.

[Jemal]

Its just dexter, his friends and girlfriends have come on the show and they have completely exposed him to just being fame hungry at any cost. Lol. Charlie will get dropped on the outside.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

Lol callum and Sam have a genuine friendship imo.

Yes, I agree, hope it carries on.

[user104658]

I think Sam definitely looks up to Callum like a big brother, and Callum clearly has a genuine soft spot for him. It's nice as there are very few friendships this year. Luke A and Adam's developing friendship was one if the mist subtly enjoyable things last year. Not high drama and explosions, but a real mutual friendship developing over the weeks. In the early seasons lots of real friendships developed... but not any more.

What was absolutely disgusting... was Jackie trying to turn Sam against Callum! They were slatng him and Sam quite sweetly spoke up like "...I don't know what's so bad, I like him " and Jackie basically responded saying that's because he's young and naive, and if he was older and wiser like her he wouldn't like him. Sly! telling a young boy that "if he was more mature and wise" he would ditch a friend.

[lily.]

Every year, I form opinions based on first impressions on the launch night, and that can change as the show goes on. The ones I expect to like, I don't and vice versa.

For example, at launch this year I was sure I'd dislike Gina and Dexter and like Hazel and Wolfie. Now I'm glad Wolfie is gone and dislike Hazel, whereas I find Dexter to be an interesting and complex character, and I find Gina hilarious.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lily.

Every year, I form opinions based on first impressions on the launch night, and that can change as the show goes on. The ones I expect to like, I don't and vice versa.

For example, at launch this year I was sure I'd dislike Gina and Dexter and like Hazel and Wolfie. Now I'm glad Wolfie is gone and dislike Hazel, whereas I find Dexter to be an interesting and complex character, and I find Gina hilarious.

Wasnt posting on the second launch as I watched it late..but here is my reaction to Dexter on launch

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ok.. I KNOW I am going to hate this guy.

[Northern Monkey]

I never back one housemate tbh,There is nobody i really like,Just a few i don't like.I don't get that immersed to back one character,I watch for the barneys and stuff.

[smeagol]

people are very fickle by nature its not just here its in life generally.

my favs in bb tend to be the same throughout but i think im a good judge of character lol same with the ones i dislike im usally the only one who dislikes them at the start and people finally catch on later i.e wolfy etc

my fav this year is dex but i got no problem changing my mind on who i like. and no problem with others who do . the problem is some people have favs for all the wrong reasons thats why some change them a lot. but............

this year isnt like most bb's all are out to to win all are seperate in their goal to get the precious even jacky charlie dont seem close like you'd expect. they all so badly want to win that people not knowing who to support one day to the next is understandable

[kate2013]

People changing their minds about housemates is par for the course because housemates behaviours are changing in there.

What I cannot stand is fans stealing the ideas of others peoples for a thread and so you end up with eight different threads about the same housemate and their behaviour. Cant people just add their opinion to the first original thread rather than either stealing that idea, or using the same idea and creating yet another thread?

It happened to me last night with Hazel word for word. Then by 12pm there has got to be eight diffent threads about the twins, the original I think was the blubbering brothers, same number about the arguement between Callum and Jackie, and someone started a really good thread about compassion in the house referring to Callum signing pumelling to Sam, and suddenly four more threads cropped up when the original was perfectly fine which has now been buried by all the other similar threads.
Theres no way I can be bothered to go through eight threads of the same subject matter. I think if someone has an original idea for a thread answer it dont bloody start another one.
. Otherwise get an original idea or thougjt of your own.

[kefln]

Its not about being fickle, its just natural progression.

A HM might catch your eye on the first week, they might be funny, attractive, have an interesting sense of style, that you like. Maybe its someone who has a "story" right from the off.

By the end of week two you might find that you have more in common with another HM, or that the person that first caught your eye is actually an ass.

People usually settle into "favourites" after a month, once they become invested in the show. But as the house dynamics change, so do peoples opinions.

This year has been fairly simple for me.

In week 1, I was a dan fan, but that wore off as his bitchy side came out. I really disliked Gina when she came in. And I quite liked sallie. Yet by the time of the first eviction, I wanted sallie to go.

Since then Ive been a fan of dex and Gina, somewhat. Ive gone back and forth with callum. While dan is growing on me again. Charlie, who I barely noticed in the first couple of weeks, is becoming one of my favourites.

What I like about this group, compared to last year, is that there is no extreme divide. There is no us against them. This makes it very easy to like several HMs at once.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kate2013

People changing their minds about housemates is par for the course because housemates behaviours are changing in there.

What I cannot stand is fans stealing the ideas of others peoples for a thread and so you end up with eight different threads about the same housemate and their behaviour. Cant people just add their opinion to the first original thread rather than either stealing that idea, or using the same idea and creating yet another thread?

It happened to me last night with Hazel word for word. Then by 12pm there has got to be eight diffent threads about the twins, the original I think was the blubbering brothers, same number about the arguement between Callum and Jackie, and someone started a really good thread about compassion in the house referring to Callum signing pumelling to Sam, and suddenly four more threads cropped up when the original was perfectly fine which has now been buried by all the other similar threads.
Theres no way I can be bothered to go through eight threads of the same subject matter. I think if someone has an original idea for a thread answer it dont bloody start another
one.
. Otherwise get an original idea or thougjt of your own.

lol bit OTT, people get carried away sometimes about stuff that happens on BB and sometimes similar threads pop up, alot of times it's because people think the same thing about a situation rather than just blatantly stealing others ideas

[kate2013]

Not the way I read it last night, there was clearly orginal threads that got overshadowed by eight ones of the same content. If i can look to see if there is already a thread of that subject why cant others. If what your saying is true then theres absolutely no point in starting a thread. Because people would rather start them than read them to see if they already exist.

[-Sue-]

I like (and still do) jack & joe when they went in.. did like wolfy.. but overtime she changed from free spirit to free-the-spit! her whole personality changed so stopped liking her... those I think are the one 2-3 (depending on how you look at it) that I have liked this year

[Beso]

it's more about bb than the housemates for me, so i tend to like then dislike housemates.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kate2013

Not the way I read it last night, there was clearly orginal threads that got overshadowed by eight ones of the same content. If i can look to see if there is already a thread of that subject why cant others. If what your saying is true then theres absolutely no point in starting a thread. Because people would rather start them than read them to see if they already exist.

Well, if you think that a thread is exactly the same as another then report and they can be merged

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

I like (and still do) jack & joe when they went in.. did like wolfy.. but overtime she changed from free spirit to free-the-spit! her whole personality changed so stopped liking her... those I think are the one 2-3 (depending on how you look at it) that I have liked this year

I like Jack and Joe too, I really don't get the hate for them

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think Sam definitely looks up to Callum like a big brother, and Callum clearly has a genuine soft spot for him. It's nice as there are very few friendships this year. Luke A and Adam's developing friendship was one if the mist subtly enjoyable things last year. Not high drama and explosions, but a real mutual friendship developing over the weeks. In the early seasons lots of real friendships developed... but not any more.

What was absolutely disgusting... was Jackie trying to turn Sam against Callum! They were slatng him and Sam quite sweetly spoke up like "...I don't know what's so bad, I like him " and Jackie basically responded saying that's because he's young and naive, and if he was older and wiser like her he wouldn't like him. Sly! telling a young boy that "if he was more mature and wise" he would ditch a friend.

Yeah very well put. I really like their friendship and I agree with what's already be iterated in this thread, that they are probably the most genuine friendship in there and the two that are most likely to stay in touch after the show ends

[Kate!]

good thread, enjoyable read.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I see people post this alot when someone changes their mind about who they like. Is it really fickleness or are these people more objective viewers and judge people by their actions in the house and from getting to know them better rather than stubbornly sticking by their chosen HM no matter what they say or do?

What do you think?

It's fickle if the reasons to stop supporting a HM are poor.

The reasons I've seen in the last day or two for some to stop supporting Dexter have been pathetic, one person in here even said they are now supporting Hazel instead of Dexter...which is insane.

Others who "claim" to have supported Dexter but now have gone off him never supported him in the first place, they are just attempting to start an anti Dexter bandwagon going.

[kate2013]

Thank you for the suggested solution it is more productive than the insult.
Still as to say in not quite the same way "opinions are like assholes everybodies got one."

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kate2013

Thank you for the suggested solution it is more productive than the insult.

The insult? How have I insulted you?