[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

My post was made after reading your original post on this thread which (in my opininion) is riddled with bitterness. Please don't turn this into some kind of feminist issue.
She is not brainless, she has the most attractive personality in there, again in my opinion.

Not having children for the sake of their bodies is something Hollywood actresses, models, singers etc. have done for generations.

I could go on but I can't be bothered.

So attractive that she was quite happy to see the group suffer rather than wear a boiler suit for a while - what a little angel she is! Don't worry - I shall leave you to your delusions about her.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

So attractive that she was quite happy to see the group suffer rather than wear a boiler suit for a while - what a little angel she is! Don't worry - I shall leave you to your delusions about her.

Her image is quite clearly very important to her, I think people would love her just as much if she walked about in a black bin bag, she is a likable girl and unless one is a shallow person most people see deeper than the outer self. As I see her Courtney has real insecurities about herself and it seems she needs to be seen as looking glamorous and sexy.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

Her image is quite clearly very important to her, I think people would love her just as much if she walked about in a black bin bag, she is a likable girl and unless one is a shallow person most people see deeper than the outer self. As I see her Courtney has real insecurities about herself and it seems she needs to be seen as looking glamorous and sexy.

I agree she is insecure, but also very superficial. Lots of women are insecure about their looks, and most like to feel sexy - but don't feel the need to model themselves on a doll to get attention. I don't see why people try to make excuses for her.

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

I agree she is insecure, but also very superficial. Lots of women are insecure about their looks, and most like to feel sexy - but don't feel the need to model themselves on a doll to get attention. I don't see why people try to make excuses for her.

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

I agree entirely.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

I think your view of her is disturbing to say the least. She was 16 when she married him, and it's pretty clear from what is known about her parents and upbringing that something was wrong in her family. Besides, no 19 yo knows exactly what they're doing. She is an adult now and she does have responsibility for herself, her actions and her choices. But responsibility is not the same as blame, and she hasn't done anything wrong per se either. I too think she's vain and pretty superficial, but that doesn't automatically make her a bad person.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

I think your view of her is disturbing to say the least. She was 16 when she married him, and it's pretty clear from what is known about her parents and upbringing that something was wrong in her family. Besides, no 19 yo knows exactly what they're doing. She is an adult now and she does have responsibility for herself, her actions and her choices. But responsibility is not the same as blame, and she hasn't done anything wrong per se either. I too think she's vain and pretty superficial, but that doesn't automatically make her a bad person.

I never said she was a bad person, but people should acknowledge her issues, not put her on a pedal stool as something to aspire to - when she clearly isn't.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

I never said she was a bad person, but people should acknowledge her issues, not put her on a pedal stool as something to aspire to - when she clearly isn't.

What exactly are you basing this on? Who is putting her on a pedestal? Who has said her life is something to aspire too?

Believe it or not, it is possible to acknowledge that Courtney seems to be a kind and sweet girl while also being vain and shallow. Very few things in life are plain black or white, people included.