[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

IIRC it was about a reconstruction the police apparently wanted to do that the McCanns said no to. Got the case back in the papers just in time for her book release.

...of someone taking Madeleine then..?..I don't know, it's just the strangest of cases, my family and I were talking about it at the weekend and as much as there are things that make you think that her parents could know more..that also doesn't make any sense either and how they've wanted it to be high profile...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...of someone taking Madeleine then..?..I don't know, it's just the strangest of cases, my family and I were talking about it at the weekend and as much as there are things that make you think that her parents could know more..that also doesn't make any sense either and how they've wanted it to be high profile...

Unfortunately I don't think anyone is ever going to know the truth besides whoever was responsible

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Unfortunately I don't anyone is ever going to know the truth besides whoever was responsible

..as a parent, that not knowing would rule my whole life I think...but they have got two other children so I guess that helps to focus them....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...of someone taking Madeleine then..?..I don't know, it's just the strangest of cases, my family and I were talking about it at the weekend and as much as there are things that make you think that her parents could know more..that also doesn't make any sense either and how they've wanted it to be high profile...

Just a reconstruction of that night I think. To jog memories.

My main question about all of this was the whole 'they've taken her' thing. What a strange thing to say when you discover your child is missing.

A lot of questions raised in that police dudes book too. I know he was arrested over it but I refuse to believe he just randomly made stuff up http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.co.uk/

If you haven't already reported what you know about that night/time when she was taken, then another documentary however many years later isn't going to do it either.

Feed the grief of the family, make a programme about it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just a reconstruction of that night I think. To jog memories.

My main question about all of this was the whole 'they've taken her' thing. What a strange thing to say when you discover your child is missing.

A lot of questions raised in that police dudes book too. I know he was arrested over it but I refuse to believe he just randomly made stuff up http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.co.uk/

..hmmm, yeah..I agree the 'they've taken her' thing seemed very odd at the time...but if they accidently hurt her..?...then could spend time with friends and those friends not see them agitated and they behaved perfectly normally..?..I can't get my head around that either...people would have noticed a difference in their behaviour if they had found their daughter dead...yet no one has said they did to my knowledge..?...

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmmm, yeah..I agree the 'they've taken her' thing seemed very odd at the time...but if they accidently hurt her..?...then could spend time with friends and those friends not see them agitated and they behaved perfectly normally..?..I can't get my head around that either...people would have noticed a difference in their behaviour if they had found their daughter dead...yet no one has said they did to my knowledge..?...

I've never really known what I believe about the case... but I like to think that they are innocent and she was sadly taken. I think perhaps they had seen someone shady watching them, someone scouting the family, and thought it was strange at the time but didn't feel overly concerned about it, just some person staring at them. If you don't deem a face important, you don't remember specifically what it looks like if you've only seen it once - perhaps they know what this person looks like or perhaps they can't remember.

Of course, they could have accidentally killed her, hidden the body, prepared what to say and gone to dinner... but I doubt they could have acted totally normally and sat through dinner if they'd just killed their daughter, somebody would have said they were acting suspiciously. I think they just made a tragic, tragic mistake.

People often use the fact that their other children weren't taken as proof that she wasn't taken... but if the person/people who took her was acting on orders to kidnap a 3 year old girl for adoption or for sexual slavery, then they were doing a job, which explains a lot.

I wonder if their other children have any memories of that night or of Madeleine... they must be about 7 years old now?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmmm, yeah..I agree the 'they've taken her' thing seemed very odd at the time...but if they accidently hurt her..?...then could spend time with friends and those friends not see them agitated and they behaved perfectly normally..?..I can't get my head around that either...people would have noticed a difference in their behaviour if they had found their daughter dead...yet no one has said they did to my knowledge..?...

Well my belief is that they either overdosed her accidentally on sedatives. Or she had a fall/accident while they were out. They panicked on finding her dead, and there comes this abduction story.

There wouldn't have been a difference in their behaviour as at the time they were with friends, they didnt know anything was wrong. If that makes sense.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well my belief is that they either overdosed her accidentally on sedatives. Or she had a fall/accident while they were out. They panicked on finding her dead, and there comes this abduction story.

There wouldn't have been a difference in their behaviour as at the time they were with friends, they didnt know anything was wrong. If that makes sense.

..yeah it does make sense, that they didn't 'discover' until after dinner when they went back...I'm not sure I'm convinced by the 'overdose/sedative' theory because they're both doctors and would know how much to give her...I also don't believe that they would first decide to give her it in a foreign country just so they could have dinner with friends, unless they had done it before and knew it to be 'safe' and that she wouldn't wake up...also, I don't think the younger ones had any traces of it in them, surely they would have tested for that if that was their theory...because why just give it to Madeleine...and the fall part, well yeah that could happen that she woke up but again, they would know the right dose so she didn't and even then to conceal her body somewhere, where it hasn't been found and do the 'someone's taken her' bit seems just too 'cold/calculated' for two ordinary people whose daughter had just died...

I don't think they killed her, either accidentally or otherwise. In any situation, the simplest explanation is often the correct one. If they were going to concoct an abduction story, why create one that makes them look like terrible parents?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I don't think they killed her, either accidentally or otherwise. In any situation, the simplest explanation is often the correct one. If they were going to concoct an abduction story, why create one that makes them look like terrible parents?

Because it would obviously have came out that they did leave the kids alone so they could get pissed? As people would have seen them all out..

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Because it would obviously have came out that they did leave the kids alone so they could get pissed? As people would have seen them all out..

..I just remembered one of the things I thought was a little 'odd'...not about the night she went missing but the part I saw of tonight's interview with them...when they said that the time they felt her absence most was at 'family gatherings/birthdays..'...I get that completely and the first few years are difficult but in a way you kind of know that's going to happen so you build and strengthen your emotions for it and it's still hard and sad and that person is very much missed...but the time that I think and feel a loss most is those things you don't expect..just everyday things..something someone says/something you watch on TV/the way a certain person says something etc..and it can remind you/bring associations that almost floor you because you didn't see it coming...do you know what I mean..?...if we're talking about what 'expected behaviour' would be..not you and I but in general in this case...that's what I as a parent/daughter would 'expect' them to have said....