[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cuda

I feel sick. They are being made the good guys when they neglected her. awful parenting.

I agree; and they never, ever seem to concede that they were in any way to blame. I'm not saying I want them to publicly flog themselves, but they never even say "Look, we did something stupid and paid the ultimate price. Please, parents, learn from this and NEVER become complacent and leave your children alone like we did." Oh no. Every time I hear from them, they were "just unlucky and it could have happened to anyone". Well yes, there's a tiny chance it could happen to anyone, but NO, this scenario could NOT just "happen to anyone". They were careless with their childrens' safety and, FFS, even if she hadn't been snatched they were being emotionally neglectful! Who leaves their kids alone in bed in a strange location?? If my 3-year-old woke up, alone, in a strange room, and we weren't there as soon as she called for us she would be terrified!

The fact is, they weren't looking after her properly and the worst happened. It's simple neglect. And I agree, if they were Jaiden and Tara-Louise from a council estate who decided to go out clubbing, they would have been lynched in the press for what happened. But because it was two doctors out for a meal and some overpriced wine, they're innocent victims. It's insanity.

No matter what happened to her, I'm sure they'll feel pain the rest of their lives for it. And I can't even say that they shouldn't. They failed her, completely.

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I hope they find her but feel they never will.

I agree.

They will have to wake up with the regret every day about leaving her alone that day.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree; and they never, ever seem to concede that they were in any way to blame. I'm not saying I want them to publicly flog themselves, but they never even say "Look, we did something stupid and paid the ultimate price. Please, parents, learn from this and NEVER become complacent and leave your children alone like we did." Oh no. Every time I hear from them, they were "just unlucky and it could have happened to anyone". Well yes, there's a tiny chance it could happen to anyone, but NO, this scenario could NOT just "happen to anyone". They were careless with their childrens' safety and, FFS, even if she hadn't been snatched they were being emotionally neglectful! Who leaves their kids alone in bed in a strange location?? If my 3-year-old woke up, alone, in a strange room, and we weren't there as soon as she called for us she would be terrified!

The fact is, they weren't looking after her properly and the worst happened. It's simple neglect. And I agree, if they were Jaiden and Tara-Louise from a council estate who decided to go out clubbing, they would have been lynched in the press for what happened. But because it was two doctors out for a meal and some overpriced wine, they're innocent victims. It's insanity.

No matter what happened to her, I'm sure they'll feel pain the rest of their lives for it. And I can't even say that they shouldn't. They failed her, completely.

100% agree...

If my 3year old wakes now, in his own bed and I don't hear him the first time he shouts he starts to get upset and he knows his surroundings.

[bbfan1991]

RE this attempted murder in Leicester, could it be mistaken identity?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Look at that bald bastard stealing from Dinasaur World

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Its a really difficult one...on one hand if it were me I would obviously want her to be alive BUT the thought of here being taken by paedophile ring is sickening and thinking she has been in that for 6 years would kill me more..

Yeah, I think that would completely destroy me if I were in that position.

Originally Posted by anniek76

100% agree...

If my 3year old wakes now, in his own bed and I don't hear him the first time he shouts he starts to get upset and he knows his surroundings.

Especially since Maddie told them that very morning they'd woken the night before and were crying.

[Kazanne]

Another thing I don't quite understand is If she was taken surely she would have woken up and caused a fuss,the child they show in the media seems to be still asleep!! I know my little one would never stay asleep if a stranger picked him up and went outside with him.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree; and they never, ever seem to concede that they were in any way to blame. I'm not saying I want them to publicly flog themselves, but they never even say "Look, we did something stupid and paid the ultimate price. Please, parents, learn from this and NEVER become complacent and leave your children alone like we did." Oh no. Every time I hear from them, they were "just unlucky and it could have happened to anyone". Well yes, there's a tiny chance it could happen to anyone, but NO, this scenario could NOT just "happen to anyone". They were careless with their childrens' safety and, FFS, even if she hadn't been snatched they were being emotionally neglectful! Who leaves their kids alone in bed in a strange location?? If my 3-year-old woke up, alone, in a strange room, and we weren't there as soon as she called for us she would be terrified!

The fact is, they weren't looking after her properly and the worst happened. It's simple neglect. And I agree, if they were Jaiden and Tara-Louise from a council estate who decided to go out clubbing, they would have been lynched in the press for what happened. But because it was two doctors out for a meal and some overpriced wine, they're innocent victims. It's insanity.

No matter what happened to her, I'm sure they'll feel pain the rest of their lives for it. And I can't even say that they shouldn't. They failed her, completely.

Tbf I don't think it's the same, the restaurant was only 50 yards from their apartment and they were checking on them every half hour, it's more akin to something like going round your neighbours for a meal. And the fact that pretty much everyone in this thread has been agreeing that they were neglectful shows they've not escaped criticism for it, and they did have all sorts of stuff printed about them in the press during the first couple of years of the search. Though I'd say being 'lynched in the press' could hardly add any more pain to that of having your child snatched away and paying the ultimate price for your error anyway

[Vicky.]

****ing heartless bastards. Maddie asked on the morning before she was 'taken' where they were the night before when she was crying. And they still did the same thing again that night. Alcohol is more important than your kids..if this was anyone else, they would be hauled through the courts for child neglect.

I feel sorry for the twins, with parents like that. Willing to leave their baby crying for hours so they can go out with their mates

[smudgie]

So sad.
No happy ending for anyone here.

The parents were very neglectful, I am thinking they will take the guilt with them to the grave

I am not sure I agree with paying 5 million to try and find out what has happened to her.
Did they not rake in a load of cash from public with their appeals that should pay for it.

[Marsh.]

And checking every half an hour is hardly encouraging either. 30 minutes is a long time.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So sad.
No happy ending for anyone here.

The parents were very neglectful, I am thinking they will take the guilt with them to the grave

I am not sure I agree with paying 5 million to try and find out what has happened to her.
Did they not rake in a load of cash from public with their appeals that should pay for it.

Yes they did,it's so wrong when her disppearance was down to their neglect.

[thesheriff443]

if think everyone is being a bit hard on them, we all make mistakes.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

if think everyone is being a bit hard on them, we all make mistakes.

Sorry but no. No loving parent would leave their kids alone AGAIN the night after they were informed (by their 3 year old!) that their children were crying when alone the night before. It just wouldn't happen.

I was under the impression that this had only happened once (leaving them alone), not that it had been every night of the holiday.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry but no. No loving parent would leave their kids alone the night after they were informed (by their 3 year old!) that their children were crying when alone the night before. It just wouldn't happen.

I was under the impression that this had only happened once (leaving them alone), not that it had been every night of the holiday.

they are paying for their mistake, as a parent my self, its easy to judge others, its the same as leaving your child in the car while you pop into a shop.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

they are paying for their mistake, as a parent my self, its easy to judge others, its the same as leaving your child in the car while you pop into a shop.

Its nothing like that. Unless you left them in the car with the door open for half an hour.

Can you honestly say you would even consider leave your kids alone in the dark in another country, even after you were informed by your child that they had been crying the night before and noone came?

[GypsyGoth]

Doesn't the guy on the left of this pic look a bit like the efit suspect they want

[Jemal]

I'll be honest.. Dont judge me. But I have no sympathy for those two parents lol.
None at all..
I do feel for Madeline if she is still alive.. But not those two idiots lol.

HOW can you goto another country and FOR 6 straight days you go out in the night and leave your 3 under aged kids alone in an apartment...
NOT ONLY THAT! BUT on the fifth day of the those 6 straights days of going out in the night to have "dinner", when having breakfast Madeline says 'where were you when we were crying?'

I mean are they physically stupid? Mentally idiotic or?
If my daughter said that to me why in gods name would i go out and leave them EVER again...

So whatever. I hope they find Madeline if she is alive for her sake, couldn't give a flying **** about her parents tbh.

[MTVN]

Personally there's no way would I let having 3 children get between me and a nice meal of tapas

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Doesn't the guy on the left of this pic look a bit like the efit suspect they want

Yes,Drew posted a pic of them side by side.maybe Gerry has a brother.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its nothing like that. Unless you left them in the car with the door open for half an hour.

Can you honestly say you would leave your kids alone in the dark in another country, even after you were informed by your child that they had been crying the night before and noone came?

im saying we all make mistakes. we sleep with the lights off, so do your kids, if you think your kids are going to be safe,other parents had kid and where checking on them but their child did not get kidnapped.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

im saying we all make mistakes. we sleep with the lights off, so do your kids, if you think your kids are going to be safe,other parents had kid and where checking on them but their child did not get kidnapped.

That makes no difference. I think the other parents were just as stupid and neglectful as the McCanns, however they were 'luckier'.

A mistake would be doing it once. They did it multiple times, even after being pulled up on it by their 3 year old. Why not just pay for he night creche ffs. Not like they were strapped for cash or anything.

Or ever have one adult of the group watching the kids each night.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

im saying we all make mistakes. we sleep with the lights off, so do your kids, if you think your kids are going to be safe,other parents had kid and where checking on them but their child did not get kidnapped.

In my opinion sheriff ALL those parents were wrong,

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That makes no difference. I think the other parents were just as stupid and neglectful as the McCanns, however they were 'luckier'.

you could as easily leave your child at a crèche and them get kidnapped.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That makes no difference. I think the other parents were just as stupid and neglectful as the McCanns, however they were 'luckier'.

A mistake would be doing it once. They did it multiple times, even after being pulled up on it by their 3 year old. Why not just pay for he night creche ffs. Not like they were strapped for cash or anything.

Or ever have one adult of the group watching the kids each night.

Yeah, even if they gave the kids a sleepover or something in one apartment with one or two of the adults watching them.

It's was just pure selfishness.