[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I agree with your point Kizzy but religion has had enough of a bashing in my opinion and for the religious contributers like Salman I don't think it's fair on him.

I want to try another aspect of our nature if I may?

Are we inherently racist?

Bear with me on this I am just asking the question. We see with animals that in a lot of cases they tend to stick with their own social groups and genus. Personally I see it too with a pretty large majority of people in relationships (there are exceptions of course).

Is it inbuilt within us to generally stick with our own ethnicity? Is a small part to play on this part of our animalistic approach to sex and reproduction?

I welcome your opinions on this...

Yes, I feel the distrust of other races is inherent and ancestral.
I have a theory it's due to different 'species' of human.
homo sapien, neanderthal, pygmy and others...

Bit nuts eh? lol

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Absolutely.

As a species we have done very little to rid ourselves of this social group mentality where we stick within our own micro communities and can be distrusting toward outsiders.

A good example of pack mentality is at football matches. People in large groups tend to find the bar of acceptable behaviour seems to drop and no longer being 'alone' and vulnerable often gives them a platform for bravado and thuggery.

Yes football matches are a great example. It's where boisterous men get to show their emotions and find that lost motherly love within their pack. Some of the scenes of grown men crying on relegation day are out of this world.

Obviously that's just a small subset of supporters I'm on about here, obviously. I love football and have attended matches myself.

As an aside I'd dare anyway to have tribal tendencies on an active dose of psilocybin mushrooms. The idea of separation seems like some sort of comedy.

Meditation is of course also a more gradual, controlled way of dissolving these false dichotomies.

Nothing beats first hand experience. I have laughed like a maniac at the idea of separation.

[Kyle]

I'm surprised that Greed hasn't had much of a rap.

I find the need that some people have for accumulating as much wealth as they can through dishonest and scandalous methods a bit sick to be honest.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I'm surprised that Greed hasn't had much of a rap.

I find the need that some people have for accumulating as much wealth as they can through dishonest and scandalous methods a bit sick to be honest.

why?

[Stu]

Because dishonest and scandalous methods more often than not come at the expense of others?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

why?

Like Stu pointed out, some people are more than happy to walk over the hands of other people just to accumulate extra finance.

I'm all for getting what you deserve but do you really have to rip off or even downright rob other people?

[Roy Mars III]

my bad, I misread that. I was thought you said gathering an overly large amount of wealth was sickening, I didn't pay attention to the 'through dishonest means part'

blame it on the alcohol.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

my bad, I misread that. I was thought you said gathering an overly large amount of wealth was sickening, I didn't pay attention to the 'through dishonest means part'

blame it on the alcohol.

No worries Roy.

You having a good night?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

No,simply because of our over inflated egos of ourselves,we THINK we are better than any other living thing,we ride rough shod over everything that gets in our way,cruelty will never be ruled out as we think we have a right over anything and everything.

Agreed Kazanne, but that is just how the animal kingdom works I think.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

No worries Roy.

You having a good night?

just a normal Sunday night, I should be working on a paper instead i am eating microwave pizza and searching for hot girls in yoga pants on tumblr

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

just a normal Sunday night, I should be working on a paper instead i am eating microwave pizza and searching for hot girls in yoga pants on tumblr

It's those nights that make the best of us!

We only live once right? Sh*t that's a whole new debate right there.....

[Mystic Mock]

I'm just catching up on some of the questions, here's my opinion on it all.

1. While the leaders of Religion are currupt, I still think it's nice for people to have something they can believe in, plus I think it helps out a lot of people just as much as it has harmed people, it's just that the media never report the good news on anything.

2. Yes I think people are inherently racist initially, but I think that once you meet an ethnic person that's nice then it can change your mind on the ethnicity in question, and on a sexual level I just think it's natural to find your own skin colour more attractive and I don't think it's racist, and I find some ethnic girls attractive so I'm not intending this to come across as racist.

3. I believe that once we die that we restart our lives back to the start, I know it's not the most desirable answer in the world but I think it explains why I feel like I've done some of this stuff before.

3.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm just catching up on some of the questions, here's my opinion on it all.

1. While the leaders of Religion are currupt, I still think it's nice for people to have something they can believe in, plus I think it helps out a lot of people just as much as it has harmed people, it's just that the media never report the good news on anything.

2. Yes I think people are inherently racist initially, but I think that once you meet an ethnic person that's nice then it can change your mind on the ethnicity in question, and on a sexual level I just think it's natural to find your own skin colour more attractive and I don't think it's racist, and I find some ethnic girls attractive so I'm not intending this to come across as racist.

3. I believe that once we die that we restart our lives back to the start, I know it's not the most desirable answer in the world but I think it explains why I feel like I've done some of this stuff before.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm just catching up on some of the questions, here's my opinion on it all.

1. While the leaders of Religion are currupt, I still think it's nice for people to have something they can believe in, plus I think it helps out a lot of people just as much as it has harmed people, it's just that the media never report the good news on anything.

2. Yes I think people are inherently racist initially, but I think that once you meet an ethnic person that's nice then it can change your mind on the ethnicity in question, and on a sexual level I just think it's natural to find your own skin colour more attractive and I don't think it's racist, and I find some ethnic girls attractive so I'm not intending this to come across as racist.

3. I believe that once we die that we restart our lives back to the start, I know it's not the most desirable answer in the world but I think it explains why I feel like I've done some of this stuff before.

Good post Mockinator, thanks for sharing.

[Mystic Mock]

Thanks Simple Minds, I hope others feel the same.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I'm surprised that Greed hasn't had much of a rap.

I find the need that some people have for accumulating as much wealth as they can through dishonest and scandalous methods a bit sick to be honest.

yes I agree IF these methods are employed, though the main issue is the spineless mps who create an environement that allows this to happen
though most rich people probably get to the top through hard work and talent
the class system and the freemasons and radical feminism all pervert society and circumvent the system of meritocracy

[Ammi]

...anyway, to answer the thread of whether humans will ever be truly civilised, I think we are civilised in that we have empathy/compassion/conscience etc and that prevents 'uncivilised' behaviour/actions in most people and I think most people are good...obviously there are extremes of human behaviour which don't have those qualities the same as others and whether it be in the name of religion or any other 'excuse'/cause, they will do bad things...there are also 'bad seeds' or bad people like Anders Breivik who can callously just take lives the way he did, with know emotion/conscience at all...

..will we ever be 'perfect'...I don't think so but I think that would be an extreme as well and possibly create its own problems, it would be interesting I guess...I think a lack of tolerance and judging others in general probably contributes a lot to 'the world's ills'....the internet, social sites/forums etc is a great example of that, especially on a BB forum maybe, where a big part of BB is 'judging' and we hear horror stories of bullying etc and generally bad behaviour all the time from sites like Ask.fm and awful behaviour hostile behaviour between people who don't know each other....but the internet is also a huge treasure trove of good things/information/communication as well....so that's a case also of using something for good and positive, rather than bad/evil..which can be done in religion, yes...as it can in many things...I guess it's the 'workman' and not the 'tool'....hmmm, not a great pun/analogy but hey ho.....

[Ammi]

..I should have said ignorance as well..intolerance and ignorance, which goes with what Mock was saying, not only being tolerant of different religions/cultures etc but also trying to learn something about them/have an understanding as well...

[Kyle]

I can't remember where I heard it Ammi but I remember some person arguing that our rate of technological advancement is growing far quicker than we as a species are and it stuck with me a little.

Things like the internet are fantastic tools like you said and without it I certainly wouldn't be able to have this sort of discussion with you but, I just think that maybe we aren't quite socially moving forward at the rate all these methods of communication/tools of decadence are.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I should have said ignorance as well..intolerance and ignorance, which goes with what Mock was saying, not only being tolerant of different religions/cultures etc but also trying to learn something about them/have an understanding as well...

Depends what you mean as intolerance I guess.

I would argue that having a genuine concern/distrust of organised religion is a fair assessment given the empirical evidence I have gathered in my relatively short life span.

That's not to say I detest religious people, far from it. perhaps that's what you meant I'm sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I can't remember where I heard it Ammi but I remember some person arguing that our rate of technological advancement is growing far quicker than we as a species are and it stuck with me a little.

Things like the internet are fantastic tools like you said and without it I certainly wouldn't be able to have this sort of discussion with you but, I just think that maybe we aren't quite socially moving forward at the rate all these methods of communication/tools of decadence are.

..sorry, I don't understand...not moving forward as quickly, in what way SM..?...do you mean things like space technology etc..?...

[smeagol]

its funny people assume were more civilized now that in the past but were not were worst.
its a act a game humans play designed by people to control us like pets for their own gain

we are all just animals bugs insects were the scum of the earth really no different to a maggot except we think were better than all other species and have some right to have heaven and a god etc but theres no god he was invented to keep us in line.

were never be civilized man has never stopped trying to kill eachother . we kill every animal there is. and why cause were the worst kind of predators.
religion is the biggest killer of all but it a excuse civilized people use to justifiy their actions

have the supermarkets run out of turkeys then your see just how civilized people really are lol.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Depends what you mean as intolerance I guess.

I would argue that having a genuine concern/distrust of organised religion is a fair assessment given the empirical evidence I have gathered in my relatively short life span.

That's not to say I detest religious people, far from it. perhaps that's what you meant I'm sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.

..I can understand what you're saying and I myself have a certain amount of distrust of the religion I was brought up in and why I choose not to practise it, so I do agree...more for the religion/beliefs than the people who practise it/I mean a large portion of the people and how for them, their religion gives them something positive in their lives/makes them better people in many ways...but maybe those beliefs make them 'worse' people in others, so maybe it all does balance itself out...hmmm, religious debates are my least favourite thing...

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..sorry, I don't understand...not moving forward as quickly, in what way SM..?...do you mean things like space technology etc..?...

I mean like our rate of technological advancement has improved dramatically in the last 40 years in comparison to our entire history.

The guy on the radio was arguing that as a species we are finding it hard to adapt to a constant influx of new technology to replace social situations, work situations, exercise and leisure etc.

The guy was a bit long winded but I think he was making the point that we are on the road to decadence.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by smeagol

its funny people assume were more civilized now that in the past but were not were worst.
its a act a game humans play designed by people to control us like pets for their own gain

we are all just animals bugs insects were the scum of the earth really no different to a maggot except we think were better than all other species and have some right to have heaven and a god etc but theres no god he was invented to keep us in line.

were never be civilized man has never stopped trying to kill eachother . we kill every animal there is. and why cause were the worst kind of predators.
religion is the biggest killer of all but it a excuse civilized people use to justifiy their actions

have the supermarkets run out of turkeys then your see just how civilized people really are lol.

Love the post but I have a more important issue to address.....





...where have you been preciousssssssssss?