[Marsh.]

Where did I say anything about them wanting to be successful?

A successful musician/actor whatever it is gets fame and celebrity through their talents.

A fame ***** strives for fame regardless of any talent they may or may not have.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Where did I say anything about them wanting to be successful?

A successful musician/actor whatever it is gets fame and celebrity through their talents.

A fame ***** strives for fame regardless of any talent they may or may not have.

But he is still working using his talents.

They have just finished a headlining tour of China, Germany, Italy and the UK plus the Big Reunion tour and the new Big Reunion Christmas tour all based on talent.

Every celeb wants fame and if you think any different you are very naïve.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

But he is still working using his talents.

They have just finished a headlining tour of China, Germany, Italy and the UK plus the Big Reunion tour and the new Big Reunion Christmas tour all based on talent.

Every celeb wants fame and if you think any different you are very naïve.

Where did I say "celebs" didn't?

I've distinguished between the two types, one I have respect for and the other I don't.