[fingers]

Shurely that's Channel4HDNews, lol?

[arista]

Originally Posted by TinyFingeringTim

Shurely that's Channel4HDNews, lol?

Yes I spoke to ch4 about why are they the only news not in HD yet
they said soon

[Z]

Originally Posted by TinyFingeringTim

Not until January.

hope it's severe...

Originally Posted by arista

Yes I spoke to ch4 about why are they the only news not in HD yet
they said soon

Customer relations guy on the C4 helpdesk:

CRG: Boss, boss - it's him again, he's called again.
Boss: About HD?
CRG: Yeah, this is about the 30th time this week. I've got to tell him something.
Boss: Yeah, you're right. Tell him soon.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Customer relations guy on the C4 helpdesk:

CRG: Boss, boss - it's him again, he's called again.
Boss: About HD?
CRG: Yeah, this is about the 30th time this week. I've got to tell him something.
Boss: Yeah, you're right. Tell him soon.

Oh, My, now who could the caller have been?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Customer relations guy on the C4 helpdesk:

CRG: Boss, boss - it's him again, he's called again.
Boss: About HD?
CRG: Yeah, this is about the 30th time this week. I've got to tell him something.
Boss: Yeah, you're right. Tell him soon.

I was sent on a goose chase first
as ITN make the Ch4News
and ITV News is HD now.

I did not speak to Customer Relations
I spoke to the Editor at that time.
He said soon.

[arista]

Now lets get Back on Topic.

That Islamic teacher should be shot
he is in Libya

- MI6 do your job.

[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

Now lets get Back on Topic.

That Islamic teacher should be shot
he is in Libya

- MI6 do your job.

That would be wrong. What would even be the point? Plenty of people preach messages that other people around the world wouldn't agree with - what is one person's gospel is another person's perception of hate speech.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

That would be wrong. What would even be the point? Plenty of people preach messages that other people around the world wouldn't agree with - what is one person's gospel is another person's perception of hate speech.

You are wrong


Every Day he converts on the web
more British Muslims to Follow what those 2 punks did.

Ref: Ch4News

[King Gizzard]

Regardless of their sentence if they never show a hint of remorse or anything of that nature they'll never get out, government won't let them because obviously they'd be a massive risk to safety

[joeysteele]

I hope the sentence is life and to mean whole life too. I find this whole case and them truly sickening and beyond anything of any human decency.
People like these 2 should never be free on any streets ever again.

I am sure the hour it took the jury to decide the guilty verdicts can only be because they were considering the charge as to the police officer, there was not a single doubt in my mind as to what the verdict should be for their barbaric and uncivilised murder of Lee Rigby.
Truly rotten and in this case rightly evil people, it is the only word to describe them.

[arista]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

no, they are the same cold blooded killers.

This, and I hope these two guys have piss in their food & drink, and I hope that they get the **** beaten out of them for the rest of their lives, and a bit of rape as well for the cowardice and brutal murder of a Soldier who was defenseless at the time of his murder.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Godinator

This, and I hope these two guys have piss in their food & drink, and I hope that they get the **** beaten out of them for the rest of their lives, and a bit of rape as well for the cowardice and brutal murder of a Soldier who was defenseless at the time of his murder.

I think you have read my thoughts Mock.

If you want people to leave behind extremism, then we need to treat people better than that. A prison sentence isn't a contract of torture, and it's pretty appalling to use it as such.

We should try and set an example, not play them at their own game.

[Nedusa]

I do not think they will ever set foot out of prison again, which is for the best as they would be lynched almost immediately were they to be spotted in public.

They will do well to stay alive in prison as any ex soldiers serving time in the same prison would have it in for them...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

If you want people to leave behind extremism, then we need to treat people better than that. A prison sentence isn't a contract of torture, and it's pretty appalling to use it as such.

We should try and set an example, not play them at their own game.

its politics at the end of the day, they deserve to die, but we have to be seen as doing the right thing.
they wont be hurt, they will be used as a symbol of our justice system

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

its politics at the end of the day, they deserve to die, but we have to be seen as doing the right thing.
they wont be hurt, they will be used as a symbol of our justice system

We shouldn't be seen to be doing the right thing, we should just do the right thing, and that isn't state sponsored murder of anyone, regardless of crimes.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

If you want people to leave behind extremism, then we need to treat people better than that. A prison sentence isn't a contract of torture, and it's pretty appalling to use it as such.

We should try and set an example, not play them at their own game.

Oh boo freakin' hoo... These people are treated with kid gloves by the system in this country as it is. They'll be segregated, have access to books and medicine, they'll be warm and well fed according to their religious needs... meanwhile Lee Rigby's family will spend the rest of their lives coming to terms with the atrocity the orchestrated. Ask them if we should be trying to set an example. I find it hard to believe that already people are worrying for the welfare of this pair.

They cited "an eye for an eye" when they run down a young soldier and father, then repeatedly stabbed him and tried and almost succeeded in hacking off his head in broad daylight on a London street. And now we've got to be all understanding? If they'd committed an act like this in an Islamic country, under Sharia law, an eye for an eye is exactly the kind of justice they'd get. And I wouldn't have a problem with that, and I believe I'm not alone.

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh boo freakin' hoo... These people are treated with kid gloves by the system in this country as it is. They'll be segregated, have access to books and medicine, they'll be warm and well fed according to their religious needs... meanwhile Lee Rigby's family will spend the rest of their lives coming to terms with the atrocity the orchestrated. Ask them if we should be trying to set an example. I find it hard to believe that already people are worrying for the welfare of this pair.

They cited "an eye for an eye" when they run down a young soldier and father, then repeatedly stabbed him and tried and almost succeeded in hacking off his head in broad daylight on a London street. And now we've got to be all understanding? If they'd committed an act like this in an Islamic country, under Sharia law, an eye for an eye is exactly the kind of justice they'd get. And I wouldn't have a problem with that, and I believe I'm not alone.

Hold on a minute. My post was made because I've seen posters calling for their torture. That's wrong, petty, and pretty ******ing barbaric. There is a difference between treating them with kid gloves, and not breaking laws to torture people, because there is a whole area in the middle, right between playstations and eye for an eye.

By the same token, if we're so much better than they are, then why is our first instinct to act in exactly the same way and mirror their behaviour? The crime committed that day was unimaginable to me (as a mostly sane person), so it is equally unimaginable to me that we should want to do the same things in retaliation.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Hold on a minute. My post was made because I've seen posters calling for their torture. That's wrong, petty, and pretty ******ing barbaric. There is a difference between treating them with kid gloves, and not breaking laws to torture people, because there is a whole area in the middle, right between playstations and eye for an eye.

By the same token, if we're so much better than they are, then why is our first instinct to act in exactly the same way and mirror their behaviour? The crime committed that day was unimaginable to me (as a mostly sane person), so it is equally unimaginable to me that we should want to do the same things in retaliation.

Stop! You're breaking my heart...

Maybe people feel justified saying what they'd like to do to these two because the two murderers themselves have stated that they live by the "eye for an eye" philosophy. I'm tired of being the ones who have to be "better than that" while other people people feel free to commit atrocities on the streets of our cities and then try to justify themselves... and other people say, oh hang on, don't talk about torturing them, that's just awful... Pretty ******ing barbaric is right. But I'm referring to what they did not what some posters said they'd like to do.

My personal belief is that they should be taken outside and shot in the head. No fuss, no ritual, no bills for their care for the rest of their lives. As far as I'm concerned they threw back my concern for their welfare when they did what they did.

Originally Posted by Livia

Stop! You're breaking my heart...

Maybe people feel justified saying what they'd like to do to these two because the two murderers themselves have stated that they live by the "eye for an eye" philosophy. I'm tired of being the ones who have to be "better than that" while other people people feel free to commit atrocities on the streets of our cities and them try to justify themselves... and other people say, oh hang on, don't talk about torturing them, that's just awful... Pretty ******ing barbaric is right. But I'm referring to what they did not what some posters said they'd like to do.

My personal belief is that they should be taken outside and shot in the head. No fuss, no ritual, no bills for their care for the rest of their lives. As far as I'm concerned they threw back my concern for their welfare when they did what they did.

Well I break a lot of hearts naturally. It's what I do - so don't think you're special!

How many atrocities have they actually committed on our streets though? We kill more of our own people through poverty than any islamic terrorist has ever managed either alone or combined. We're so appalling blinkered by the latest shiny news item where everyone can join together in mutual rage, that we fail to see just how equally bad we can be.

I understand that most people would just want to put a bullet in their heads, but you're all wrong. There is no middle ground on this where I'm concerned. Human rights are human rights and need to be fought for and protected for everyone. Yes, even the most despicable kind of person we can all imagine.

It's weird, because all I'm actually advocating is that we don't either murder or torture them. Who'd have known that would ever be a disagreeable statement?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Stop! You're breaking my heart...

Maybe people feel justified saying what they'd like to do to these two because the two murderers themselves have stated that they live by the "eye for an eye" philosophy. I'm tired of being the ones who have to be "better than that" while other people people feel free to commit atrocities on the streets of our cities and then try to justify themselves... and other people say, oh hang on, don't talk about torturing them, that's just awful... Pretty ******ing barbaric is right. But I'm referring to what they did not what some posters said they'd like to do.

My personal belief is that they should be taken outside and shot in the head. No fuss, no ritual, no bills for their care for the rest of their lives. As far as I'm concerned they threw back my concern for their welfare when they did what they did.

I 100% agree, I am not a punishing for punishings sake kind of person but I feel total contempt for these 2, in fact I would hand them over to the Military and let them deal with them all through their life sentences.

This was a purely evil act, they even rammed into him with a car so he had no chance at all of having even the slightest possible chance to get away from them or in any way defend himself.

Be soft in any way on these 2 barbarians, not likely for me.
As you said earlier,they will get food, recreation, visits,if anyone would really want to visit them, medical help when needed too.
Lee Rigby's family always felt likely he could be killed in an attack while on duty somewhere but to have this sickening, inhuman, savage and cowardly attack and murder done to him in his own Country while totally unarmed too, I cannot see where these 2 warrant the slightest crumb of any understanding or leniency especially after pleading not guilty and prolonging the agony of Lee's family further..

They would get not an ounce of it from me at all.

[Nedusa]

I don't want them to be executed, I want them to be kept alive for as long as possible. but I would like that time to be spent in relative discomfort in a maximum security prison or in solitary confinement so they have a long time to reflect on what they did.

It would be nice in years to come if they actually realised they had been brainwashed and came out publicly to argue against extremism and radicalisation .

This is turn might dissuade other would be fanatics to think twice about their own paths and ultimately some very small crumb of hope may come out of this shockingly sad situation.

[Kyle]

They can rot in jail as far as I'm concerned. No death penalty, no easy way out, no more publicity, just them and the four walls.

Enjoy your time at her Majesty's pleasure