[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

He really wasn't all that but I know there's some weird forum fetish about "talking points"

Why do you watch Big Brother then, troy? Do you prefer a Big Brother 4 style series over something like Celebrity Big Brother 13? I'm genuinely asking. I don't watch Big Brother for moral guidance or to find a new best friend, I watch it to see what happens in the house. This series has been all about negative drama; but I'd be equally entertained if it were full of intelligent debates because we could discuss those to death on here. Sam and Ollie have done the bare minimum in the house and have barely sparked discussion on here up until the fence sitting task which was specifically done to get them to be of interest. It's a bit pathetic.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Zee

Why do you watch Big Brother then, troy? Do you prefer a Big Brother 4 style series over something like Celebrity Big Brother 13? I'm genuinely asking. I don't watch Big Brother for moral guidance or to find a new best friend, I watch it to see what happens in the house. This series has been all about negative drama; but I'd be equally entertained if it were full of intelligent debates because we could discuss those to death on here. Sam and Ollie have done the bare minimum in the house and have barely sparked discussion on here up until the fence sitting task which was specifically done to get them to be of interest. It's a bit pathetic.

Lee's a simpleton who didn't really deliver anything new after the first week. Recycled self-pity and self-victimizing isn't my cup of tea tbh

[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Lee's a simpleton who didn't really deliver anything new after the first week. Recycled self-pity and self-victimizing isn't my cup of tea tbh

I agree with you, but isn't that more interesting to analyse and discuss than watching Ollie flip the direction of his hair in the mirror and Sam take her make up on and off? Neither of them have had anything worthwhile to say throughout their time in there. I'm sure they're both lovely people but they've done nothing worth discussing in there. If the two of them had been having a laugh while the other 10 housemates were all off spouting bitchy comments and shocking attitudes towards women/men/sex/animals then I think most people would be behind the two of them, but instead they just hovered around all the drama without getting involved in any way at all.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Zee

I agree with you, but isn't that more interesting to analyse and discuss than watching Ollie flip the direction of his hair in the mirror and Sam take her make up on and off? Neither of them have had anything worthwhile to say throughout their time in there. I'm sure they're both lovely people but they've done nothing worth discussing in there. If the two of them had been having a laugh while the other 10 housemates were all off spouting bitchy comments and shocking attitudes towards women/men/sex/animals then I think most people would be behind the two of them, but instead they just hovered around all the drama without getting involved in any way at all.

Wow it's almost like it's possible to acknowledge the shortcomings of other HMs without praising one of the most obnoxiously self-pitying HMs ever.

[Z]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Wow it's almost like it's possible to acknowledge the shortcomings of other HMs without praising one of the most obnoxiously self-pitying HMs ever.

So what do you want to see on your TV? I'd really like to know. I'm not saying I want to watch Lee Ryan's soft core porn and philandering, but that I'd rather see that and discuss that than have a house full of Sams and Ollies who are too concerned with their public image and preserving it to actually say or do anything worth discussing.