[joeysteele]

Well for me anyone who can set out to cause more grief to those who are still mourning and haunted by this absolutely horrific and sick murder of James should at the very least be forced to be mentally assessed.
Something must be really sick about them and if it isn't just pure rottenness then it must be a case of mental issues.

Jamie's parents, have had more than enough to deal with as to James murderers with their new identities and one of them committing crimes again.
His Mother,who has fought long and hard as to this case in order to try to deal with her grief should not have this sick individual plastering nonsense like this 'deliberately' on the internet in any form.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They are out Cherie

It may be that any unusual activity towards the family has to be followed up and rightly so, taxes are spent on alot worse

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well for me anyone who can set out to cause more grief to those who are still mourning and haunted by this absolutely horrific and sick murder of James should at the very least be forced to be mentally assessed.
Something must be really sick about them and if it isn't just pure rottenness then it must be a case of mental issues.

Jamie's parents, have had more than enough to deal with as to James murderers with their new identities and one of them committing crimes again.
His Mother,who has fought long and hard as to this case in order to try to deal with her grief should not have this sick individual plastering nonsense like this 'deliberately' on the internet in any form.

Well said Joey,totally agree

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No I don't see that, and it thankfully doesn't work like that.

But it would..if the internet was policed in the way that people seem to want it to be. Its just not fair to cherry pick cases to prosecute for...and there are hundreds of death threats and stuff made everyday on twitter and such. We do not have enough police to handle a caseload like that,

[Vicky.]

Why is venables out again? Didnt he get let out then get done again for child porn? One second chance is enough IMO...too much in some cases.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It may be that any unusual activity towards the family has to be followed up and rightly so, taxes are spent on alot worse

They are (supposed)to be on a life monitor,but that wasn't very effective in the case of Venables was it?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No I don't see that, and it thankfully doesn't work like that.

You don't think that, say somebody who was being beaten to death should be seen quicker?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why is venables out again? Didnt he get let out then get done again for child porn? One second chance is enough IMO...too much in some cases.

He's been out a while Vicky,wonder how much we are paying for yet ANOTHER new identity.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He's been out a while Vicky,wonder how much we are paying for yet ANOTHER new identity.

Thats an absolute disgrace. Wonder how many more chances the sick **** will get.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He's been out a while Vicky,wonder how much we are paying for yet ANOTHER new identity.

Disgusting

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But it would..if the internet was policed in the way that people seem to want it to be. Its just not fair to cherry pick cases to prosecute for...and there are hundreds of death threats and stuff made everyday on twitter and such. We do not have enough police to handle a caseload like that,

It's not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. It will be dealt with due to weight of evidence same as any case I guess.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Thats an absolute disgrace. Wonder how many more chances the sick **** will get.

It beggars belief really how those two scum bags have been protected.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In this case I don't want a free internet.. If the price is people are abused and harassed without redress by some jumped up geek banging away on his keyboard spouting their mouth off to those grieving then I say regulate the hell out of it and expose them all.

You'd be willing to give up a freedom just to prevent an EXTREME minority from spouting some minor abuse? I pity you because you're willing to give up your rights for absolutely nothing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

You don't think that, say somebody who was being beaten to death should be seen quicker?

It doesn't work like that jake, the police don't cherrypick on a sliding scale of presumed severity of crime, if there is evidence then there is an investigation.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It doesn't work like that jake, the police don't cherrypick on a sliding scale of presumed severity of crime, if there is evidence then there is an investigation.

I wasn't questioning how it worked

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You'd be willing to give up a freedom just to prevent an EXTREME minority from spouting some minor abuse? I pity you because you're willing to give up your rights for absolutely nothing.

I pity you dezzy if you can't comprehend that it's important to take ALL crime as seriously if it is impacting significantly on a persons life?
Why presume it was minor abuse, the EXTREME minority who feel it's acceptable to do that will have to realise that they can't abuse people over any medium.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I wasn't questioning how it worked

It seemed you were, there have been cases recently of people being abused online and then targeted in person it's only right that it's made a priority to address this.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...k-notes-austen
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...our-peril.html

[Jack_]

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea of people being arrested for things they say on Twitter and actually that's moreso because of the selective enforcement, you simply can't prosecute all of them and that to me is unfair and leads to people that get media coverage being given preference over others so the police can make themselves look like they're tackling the issue. Not acceptable IMO

This person and the people that do these things are arseholes but block buttons exist for a reason and quite often the people that do these things are torn apart by randomers that see the abuse anyway

Once we start going down the route of prosecuting people for trolling online then the internet will become a very watered down, censored place and the same people that are crying and wailing for them to be jailed will in a few years be posting about how concerned they are about their civil liberties being taken away under the guise of protection from a few trolls on Twitter.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Once we start going down the route of prosecuting people for trolling online then the internet will become a very watered down, censored place and the same people that are crying and wailing for them to be jailed will in a few years be posting about how concerned they are about their civil liberties being taken away under the guise of protection from a few trolls on Twitter.

I don't think it could be said better than this, censorship has become a huge worry in recent years and cases like this are just leading us towards being controlled online rather than it being a free platform for everyone.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea of people being arrested for things they say on Twitter and actually that's moreso because of the selective enforcement, you simply can't prosecute all of them and that to me is unfair and leads to people that get media coverage being given preference over others so the police can make themselves look like they're tackling the issue. Not acceptable IMO

This person and the people that do these things are arseholes but block buttons exist for a reason and quite often the people that do these things are torn apart by randomers that see the abuse anyway

Once we start going down the route of prosecuting people for trolling online then the internet will become a very watered down, censored place and the same people that are crying and wailing for them to be jailed will in a few years be posting about how concerned they are about their civil liberties being taken away under the guise of protection from a few trolls on Twitter.

You can't systematically verbally assault and harass people can you, So why is that accepted online? As said recently the internet is relatively new therefore it's going to be subject to regulation and laws amended to include it into the current legislation to protect people from abuse.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

I don't think it could be said better than this, censorship has become a huge worry in recent years and cases like this are just leading us towards being controlled online rather than it being a free platform for everyone.

The internet is not a playground is it?

[James]

Reading the news article I would say it is completely right that the police take action in this case.

What I said previously, in other threads, on the general topic:

Originally Posted by James

There has to be some limits on freedom-of-speech otherwise things like bullying and defamation would be tolerated.

Originally Posted by James

The trouble with the Internet / social media / online communities etc. is there's too many people thinking they can post things without ever having to be held responsible for them. (Incidentally, I think that was a major contributing factor to the recent riots as well).

Banning from Facebook and using ignore facilities isn't very effective because users just get around it by creating new identities. It needs stronger action to show that actions like this have consequences.

[Josy]

I disagree that what this man done was 'Freedom of Speech' he intentionally created that twitter account with the sole purpose of inflicting abuse on this family.

If anything what this idiot done would be described in law as nearer to a 'hate' speech which is speech, gesture, conduct or writing, that disparages or intimidates or incites violence etc

But even calling it any kind of speech is reaching IMO, he set out to do one thing and that was to deliberately cause distress to the child's mother and family.

I don't see how censorship comes into at all, if he was giving his opinion on something then fair enough I could understand the freedom of speech/censorship argument but no he was just being a 100% nasty git for the sake of causing hurt to others.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree that what this man done was 'Freedom of Speech' he intentionally created that twitter account with the sole purpose of inflicting abuse on this family.

If anything what this idiot done would be described in law as nearer to a 'hate' speech which is speech, gesture, conduct or writing, that disparages or intimidates or incites violence etc

But even calling it any kind of speech is reaching IMO, he set out to do one thing and that was to deliberately cause distress to the child's mother and family.

I don't see how censorship comes into at all, if he was giving his opinion on something then fair enough I could understand the freedom of speech/censorship argument but no he was just being a 100% nasty git for the sake of causing hurt to others.

Freedom of Speech is kind of an all or nothing deal. You either accept all of it or you accept nothing and I'd rather have all of it and accept some of the bad than allow the internet to be policed and slowly censored because that's what will eventually happen. If you give someone an inch like that then they'll end up taking a mile.

At the end of the day when it comes to Freedom of Speech, the good will always outweigh the bad and there's no defending or endorsing the fact that police resources was wasted on what should have been an Admin issue.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have given my opinion over several posts dezzy, I don't agree with your freedom of speech angle that's all.
The fact you are so willing to defend these individuals offends me so we both disappoint one another it seems.
Why must the internet remain a place that is a breeding ground for those who choose to abuse people?

You should actually try reading my posts for once Kizzy instead of getting caught up on one sentence and ignoring the rest, I've not said a single thing all thread to defend the man in question. Everything I've said has been against the fact that the police was bought in to handle on what should have been an admin issue. You would know that if you actually read what I was saying.

The internet isn't a breeding ground for abuse, you're just letting yourself believe that because you are buying into the stories that are highlighting a small minority. The fact that it's a vocal minority doesn't change the fact that it's still a minority. In the long run they affect very little and wasting police time when there's actual crimes to be dealt with is just plain dumb.