[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

She has kept information about herself private, just as Dani had.

The only thing Dani did was to have a persona and as it's a gameshow she's entitled to do that.

Yes, but having her fake persona exposed is not Helen's fault or problem. That's BB being unfair, hardly Helen's issue.

Keeping something private is not the same as lying about it.

If I kept the fact I'd killed someone a secret doesn't mean I'm denying or lying about it.

If I went about pretending to be a Catholic with morals who would never do such things, then I'd be pretending to be something I'm not.

It is not the same thing.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, but having her fake persona exposed is not Helen's fault or problem. That's BB being unfair, hardly Helen's issue.

Keeping something private is not the same as lying about it.

If I kept the fact I'd killed someone a secret doesn't mean I'm denying or lying about it.

If I went about pretending to be a Catholic with morals who would never do such things, then I'd be pretending to be something I'm not.

It is not the same thing.

So going by your above statement, it's ok for Dani to keep her private life private, i.e. webcam, raunchy photos, and by not mentioning them is ok because that means she's just keeping it private and keeping something private is not the same as lying.

The problem lies in the fact that you see that she was pretending to be a catholic with morals, whereas i see that this was a persona just trying to win BB.

I think we're actually flogging a dead horse now and should agree to disagree

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

So going by your above statement, it's ok for Dani to keep her private life private, i.e. webcam, raunchy photos, and by not mentioning them is ok because that means she's just keeping it private and keeping something private is not the same as lying.

The problem lies in the fact that you see that she was pretending to be a catholic with morals, whereas i see that this was a persona just trying to win BB.

Where have I said it wasn't a persona designed to win BB?

You were the one who said Helen was just like Danielle concealing her past.
I simply pointed out that it's completely different. Keeping your past private is not the same as lying, that's just obvious.

Danielle lied about herself, Helen didn't. That is a difference. Danielle simply not divulging info is fine, as it is with anyone. Make OTT lies about it and you'll be caught out and people will want to expose you.

Trying to play a character in a show with such exposure is never a plan that works. You always get caught. Dexter did well last year but not because anyone believed his fake persona.

I never insinuated it made Danielle worse than Helen, just that it doesn't make Helen a hypocrite.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

So going by your above statement, it's ok for Dani to keep her private life private, i.e. webcam, raunchy photos, and by not mentioning them is ok because that means she's just keeping it private and keeping something private is not the same as lying.

The problem lies in the fact that you see that she was pretending to be a catholic with morals, whereas i see that this was a persona just trying to win BB.

I think we're actually flogging a dead horse now and should agree to disagree

She can try and win BB by using a fake persona. But she cannot expect sympathy if she gets rumbled. Nasty Nick had a game plan, he got rumbled and ejected. Danielle has lied and been 2 faced, just as much as Nasty Nick. Live by the sword, you die by the sword