[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I've followed Big Brother for years and have paid particular attention to the polls for all of them... I have never ever seen anyone get evicted when they were as far behind as Matthew was, campaign or no campaign. There was a campaign to save Ashleigh and that was reflected on every poll that had Jale going out.

The most reliable one is tellymix and he was no where near Ash that week. They called Toya going correctly, and they called Jale going correctly. Yet somehow they were that far out on that Matthew eviction? They called Pauline's eviction correctly within a percentage point.

Just think about what they've done this year...

After a campaign to Save Ashleigh by evicting Jale, they decide to take the public vote out of the eviction process altogether.

When it takes out Marlon and Danielle (though Ashleigh was in the running both times), they then have a vote for PH and tell us and her that she will be immune from this weeks eviction and be the most powerful PH yet. What then happens? She ends up for eviction.

This is beyond farcical now.

Yeah you have mentioned all of that before.

None of it however proves in any way that any votes were rigged at all, which was the point of this thread, none of it proves that the producers want certain housemates out and certain housemates in and most of all none of it gives a reason as to WHY they care either way.

The votes for BB are monitored by Electoral Reform Services and the show producers and the tv channel would be in very serious trouble if any vote rigging was going on.

Also Toya and Matthew were also told they were safe and weren't it wasn't specifically thought up to target Ashleigh.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah you have mentioned all of that before.

None of it however proves in any way that any votes were rigged at all, which was the point of this thread, none of it proves that the producers want certain housemates out and certain housemates in and most of all none of it gives a reason as to WHY they care either way.

Oh I admit, I can't prove it. And as for WHY they care. Again you're asking me to answer something only someone privy to their conversations could know. It would take a court of law with all the evidence to prove the motive. All I ask of people is to recognize how dodgy this show is this year.

The votes for BB are monitored by Electoral Reform Services and the show producers and the tv channel would be in very serious trouble if any vote rigging was going on.

Also Toya and Matthew were also told they were safe and weren't it wasn't specifically thought up to target Ashleigh.

We were told on the night Toya and Matthew became PH that one of them would face the public vote and they became PHs due to housemates nominating. I still think that was dodgy, but this is far worse... Not only have housemates been told they were immune, but we have voted for someone to be that PH and were told repeatedly afterwards that they were immune. They're telling flat out lies to us now after getting us to waste energy voting.

Do you not think something very dodgy is going on here this year? It's almost as if they are trying to infuriate viewers and run this show into the ground

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Oh I admit, I can't prove it. And as for WHY they care. Again you're asking me to answer something only someone privy to their conversations could know. It would take a court of law with all the evidence to prove the motive. All I ask of people is to recognize how dodgy this show is this year.



We were told on the night Toya and Matthew became PH that one of them would face the public vote and they became PHs due to housemates nominating. I still think that was dodgy, but this is far worse... Not only have housemates been told they were immune, but we have voted for someone to be that PH and were told repeatedly afterwards that they were immune. They're telling flat out lies to us now after getting us to waste energy voting.

Do you not thinking something very dodgy is going on here this year?

No I don't think anything dodgy is going on that's the honest truth, I think they are doing everything they can to play up to the 'power' twist since they have made such a big deal about that the whole way through.

Also yes we were told that either Toya or Matthew wouldn't be as safe but they were told they were immune.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

No I don't think anything dodgy is going on that's the honest truth, I think they are doing everything they can to play up to the 'power' twist since they have made such a big deal about that the whole way through.

Also yes we were told that either Toya or Matthew wouldn't be as safe but they were told they were immune.

Yes, but you admit they are now lying to the viewers?

And you don;t think all this interference and constant manipulation despite viewers repeatedly saying they are fed up with it isn;t being done with some sort of strange agenda behind it?

It doesn't make you think "What the hell are they playing at" at all? Emma looked fed up tonight, Rylan was oblivious. It's very strange.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Yes, but you admit they are now lying to the viewers?

And you don;t think all this interference and constant manipulation despite viewers repeatedly saying they are fed up with it isn;t being done with some sort of strange agenda behind it?

It doesn't make you think "What the hell are they playing at" at all? Emma looked fed up tonight, Rylan was oblivious. It's very strange.

I only see people on forums saying they are fed up with manipulation when it isn't going well for the housemates they support tbh myself included

The viewers in general aren't annoyed because they are still watching going by the ratings.

They never really lied to us, only to the housemates but they also covered their backs by repeatedly saying 'No one is safe'

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

I only see people on forums saying they are fed up with manipulation when it isn't going well for the housemates they support tbh myself included

The viewers in general aren't annoyed because they are still watching going by the ratings.

Lowest rated series on Channel 5 isn;t it?

They never really lied to us, only to the housemates but they also covered their backs by repeatedly saying 'No one is safe'

I'm sure they told us repeatedly that they were immune. They did so in press releases and on BOTS didn't they?

But they asked us to vote for the PH without giving us these sort of details and letting us think that person would be immune like Chris was when he was voted PH.

I just don't know why fans of this show are defending them over and over this year.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Lowest rated series on Channel 5 isn;t it?



I'm sure they told us repeatedly that they were immune. They did so in press releases and on BOTS didn't they?

But they asked us to vote for the PH without giving us these sort of details and letting us think that person would be immune like Chris was when he was voted PH.

I just don't know why fans of this show are defending them over and over this year.

They never really gave any details about the PH during that poll though, wasn't it actually worded like 'If the power returned who would you like to get it' or something like that?

[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Oh I admit, I can't prove it. And as for WHY they care. Again you're asking me to answer something only someone privy to their conversations could know. It would take a court of law with all the evidence to prove the motive. All I ask of people is to recognize how dodgy this show is this year.



We were told on the night Toya and Matthew became PH that one of them would face the public vote and they became PHs due to housemates nominating. I still think that was dodgy, but this is far worse... Not only have housemates been told they were immune, but we have voted for someone to be that PH and were told repeatedly afterwards that they were immune. They're telling flat out lies to us now after getting us to waste energy voting.

Do you not think something very dodgy is going on here this year? It's almost as if they are trying to infuriate viewers and run this show into the ground

Brilliant post Yaki da and spot on.

How anyone cannot see the blatant bias and unfairness is beyond me.

And how anyone can defend a TV programme getting people to spend money voting for a housemate (Ashliegh) to be immune from eviction - and then BLATANTLY rigging it so that the housemate is NOT immune - well, words fail me.

Offcom should really get involved in this one.

Not only is it playing nasty mind-games with Ashleigh, it is also lying to the public and getting us to spend money under false pretences.

Bloody wrong.