[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's a bit unfair to bring her mother into it Kazanne. Why do you say she's pushy? If you're just pulling it out of thin air and have nothing to actually back it up then I'll ask you to stop as it is unfair to criticize family of HMs like that just because you don't like the actual HM

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

We can assume many things which might not be true.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

I would LOVE to see who she up against in "Miss Derry "(hardly miss Universe is it ?) A crossed eyed munter and a overweight bint with a limp are my guess

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

Helen is an actual HM though Kazanne. So what if she won Miss Derry, that doesn't say a single thing about her mother, funny how she's "only" 18 when it suits the argument eh?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

..a very few posters may have mentioned Helen's parenting skills and that's just as wrong I agree, I think most people would agree that was right or necessary because those are all assumptions as well ...her mum/parents may have supported her in whatever she's wanted in life...don't most parents do that but that's not in any way being pushy or something either Ashleigh or her mum should have criticism laid at them for....

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

I think she is missing someone of her own age to do the girlie things which she likes to do.

However, be honest, who wouldn't be miserable with that lot in there and of course she laughs at others, they want to be funny, that's why they act as they do. Haven't you seen Winston and thee others laughing alongside her as well.

As for her mother, they all go on BB to support their kids, good for them all, I don't think it is the parents choice they go in there, who would want that sort of reception on eviction night for their child but would support them if it is their choice.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I think she is missing someone of her own age to do the girlie things which she likes to do.

However, be honest, who wouldn't be miserable with that lot in there and of course she laughs at others, they want to be funny, that's why they act as they do. Haven't you seen Winston and thee others laughing alongside her as well.

As for her mother, they all go on BB to support their kids, good for them all, I don't think it is the parents choice they go in there, who would want that sort of reception on eviction night for their child but would support them if it is their choice.

Absolutely.

[Cold Sweat]

Ashleigh dealt well with a cr@p situation IMO – and came out of last night’s HL show in a positive light.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cold Sweat

Ashleigh dealt well with a cr@p situation IMO – and came out of last night’s HL show in a positive light.

Did she ? she didn't on my tv ,she came across as a cocky little cow

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Cold Sweat

Ashleigh dealt well with a cr@p situation IMO – and came out of last night’s HL show in a positive light.

Agree she felt very uncomfortable and had every right to display some anger.An honest and understandable reaction which would have been just the same if it was Winstone or Ash told to lick her ears.

[Nell_McCoy]

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

I agree that she was mortified by what BB was asking Chris to do, however she could have been choosier with her words, remember they are supposed to be good friends in the house and saying you'd rather drown in yogurt than have your 'friend' lick your ear doesn't actually come across as friends from her perspective, you'd say that if you were repulsed by someone not if they were your friend.

She may be being mindful of the whole creepy Chris thing but those words made him look like an even bigger creep as they homed in on his face....poor Chris!

I would think the words she used hurt his feelings and i for one am not convinced she'll have anything to do with him on the outside.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I agree that she was mortified by what BB was asking Chris to do, however she could have been choosier with her words, remember they are supposed to be good friends in the house and saying you'd rather drown in yogurt than have your 'friend' lick your ear doesn't actually come across as friends from her perspective, you'd say that if you were repulsed by someone not if they were your friend.

She may be being mindful of the whole creepy Chris thing but those words made him look like an even bigger creep as they homed in on his face....poor Chris!

I would think the words she used hurt his feelings and i for one am not convinced she'll have anything to do with him on the outside.

Yes Im sure Chris would be very upset by what she said and the spiteful way she said it ,getting close to her has robbed him of the massive chance he had of winning

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes Im sure Chris would be very upset by what she said and the spiteful way she said it ,getting close to her has robbed him of the massive chance he had of winning

A lot of people have been robbed of a chance of winning; most of them female interestingly but not many people seem to think that matters. No-one forced Chris to have anything at all with Ashleigh, he did it himself and if he wants to he can walk away now and maybe the GBP'll forgive him for talking to her and perhaps he can improve his chances of winning.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I agree that she was mortified by what BB was asking Chris to do, however she could have been choosier with her words, remember they are supposed to be good friends in the house and saying you'd rather drown in yogurt than have your 'friend' lick your ear doesn't actually come across as friends from her perspective, you'd say that if you were repulsed by someone not if they were your friend.

She may be being mindful of the whole creepy Chris thing but those words made him look like an even bigger creep as they homed in on his face....poor Chris!

I would think the words she used hurt his feelings and i for one am not convinced she'll have anything to do with him on the outside.

Er.....you can't blame Ashleigh for what the camera did!

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Er.....you can't blame Ashleigh for what the camera did!

The camera can't talk.....can it?

[bots]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

The camera can't talk.....can it?

Have you not noticed how each housemate is becoming increasingly annoying to listen too? Thats the camera. We are not listening to hm's anymore, just voice over actors telling us what bb wants us to hear

You heard it here first!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

Exactly...it was a pathetic task anyway...it was as cringe as the George Galloway/Rula lenska scenario...making people look really stupid. I think Ashleigh felt for Chris having to do it and as an18 year old you wouldn't want a 30 year old man doing that to you anyway.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

This. I keep getting impression that some people on here expect Ashleigh to be a passive little girl who's all too keen to do as she's told because that's what's expected of her. But We all know that even if she did, she'd be crucified for that too. She, like other women (most of whom have been robbed of their place in the house) simply aren't allowed to win-damned if she does,damned if she doesn't.

[mrflibble]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

I wouldn't care how old I was or how old the other person was, I wouldn't let anyone lick my ear. And yes, she wasn't trying to hurt Chris; neither wanted to do it and Chris laughed at her reactions.

[RockBottom]

Big brother should know that witches and water do not go together

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by RockBottom

Big brother should know that witches and water do not go together

This made me Lol!

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by the truth

the task with the wild animals and chris has to splash her , shes all attitude and her usual sour pussed scorn........cant she ever just have fun and stop being so mean all the time? worse to follow hes told to lick her ears, she not only gets defensive she gets nasty and personal about how its the last thing on earth shed ever want or allow to happen.....she doesnt do it with lightness of touch nor does she spare chris' feelings....shes unpleasant

she is 18 - life is all about how she is precieved - we have all been there and done it. she is one loverly girl and not at all put me off her. if i was 50 years younger i would propose.

[bots]

I don't see her as anything other than a typical 18 year old girl. She is neither the fairy princess or spawn of Satan that many would have us believe.

What people don't know, they make up, on both sides of the fence, its hilarious.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't see her as anything other than a typical 18 year old girl. She is neither the fairy princess or spawn of Satan that many would have us believe.

What people don't know, they make up, on both sides of the fence, its hilarious.

You're dead right.