[Macie Lightfoot]

Right Helen was given the bad guy label because of the edit and production, not at all because of her actions.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Robodog

People need a good guy and a bad guy.

Years of formulaic american movies has conditioned us to expect this classic set up.

It's in movies, soap operas, even the news! and BB is no exception.

The BB crowd - now more than ever - need someone to chant out each week.

This year it has been Pauline, Toya, Helen, Ashleigh, Danielle, Steven and Mark who have all been in the firing line for the role of 'bad guy' at some point.

And having identified the bad guy - we then look around for 'the hero'.

Right now - Helen gets the 'bad guy' badge (aided by the BB tasks and edit) and Ashleigh has been given the 'good guy' badge. Even though a few weeks ago (after her 'evil plan' - Ashleigh was the bad guy)

People then pour all their years worth of 'bad guy' emotions onto the current figure of 'bad guy' - hence we are now at the stage of people mentioning Hitler in the same breath as Helen on forums!

People also excuse and ignore the bad traits of 'good guy' as they want their hero to be whiter than white as the good v bad scenario is played out before us.

I have no doubt at all that if Helen had been evicted 6 weeks ago - there would be someone else in there right now filling the role of 'bad guy'. Probably Ashleigh or Chris.

It's kind of unfair on the HMs who are pawns in the BB game of good v bad, but after 15 years on the screen - it's no surprise really.

It began with Nick v Craig in series 1 and kept on rolling..

Ashleigh was never the "bad guy". She didn't like Helen because she was a nasty bully who had a nasty gang of mates. Is it surprising that Ashleigh wouldn't like a nasty bully when she has only just left school, where she was bullied? She went in to Big Brother hoping to have a fun summer and she ended up back in the school playground. She is still there. The people who hate Ashleigh cannot grasp this concept. The people who love Ashleigh fully grasp it and that is why they want her to win so badly.

[reece(:]

Idk, I solidly support both Helen and Ashleigh.

[Ammi]

..I think because sometimes people only see other housemates in terms of their relationship and interactions with their favourite housemate..?...so if it's like a Helen v Ashleigh thing, in terms of a conflict and rivalry, then they will see the other housemate as the 'enemy' to them also but then sometimes during the course of a series, housemate friendships etc can change drastically and with that, so does the opinion of fans in that they start to see that housemate as less of an enemy/threat to their favourite as that change of heart is reflected on the show..it can be the other way round as well when friendships in the house go bad....friends gone bad sounds like a reality show in itself....