[lostalex]

This would already be over if the media wasn't kicking it up. These aren't local people protesting the local police. The national media has whipped this up to something much bigger than it should have been. Shame on the media who just wants as much violence as possible to make good TV.

[Tom4784]

Autopsy reports have apparently shown that the Police's story is bull****. The police was saying that he was shot in the police car after he made a grab for a gun but the autopsy report says that he was shot from a long range and the execution shot hit him in the top of his head which suggests he was surrendering when he was murdered.

There's no defending them, they've lied about the circumstances of this man's death and people only lie when they have something to hide. That and the fact that they keep arresting journalists for no reason to prevent them from reporting on the story. Freedom of the Press indeed.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Autopsy reports have apparently shown that the Police's story is bull****. The police was saying that he was shot in the police car after he made a grab for a gun but the autopsy report says that he was shot from a long range and the execution shot hit him in the top of his head which suggests he was surrendering when he was murdered.

There's no defending them, they've lied about the circumstances of this man's death and people only lie when they have something to hide. That and the fact that they keep arresting journalists for no reason to prevent them from reporting on the story. Freedom of the Press indeed.

so the appropriate response to a horrible crime by the police is destroying a local 7/11 and stealing alcohol?? please explain that logic to me...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so the appropriate response to a horrible crime by the police is destroying a local 7/11 and stealing alcohol?? please explain that logic to me...

Some people will take advantage of any opportunity, like with the London Riots you were so keen on bringing up, it was a case of people using the protest as an excuse to loot. The looters and the protesters should not be marred with the same brush but sadly they are since it's an easy way to demonise the actual protesters and drag their protest through the mud.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by lostalex

This would already be over if the media wasn't kicking it up. These aren't local people protesting the local police. The national media has whipped this up to something much bigger than it should have been. Shame on the media who just wants as much violence as possible to make good TV.

I get the feeling that you would rather this was brushed under the carpet and ignored rather than facing the issue and accepting that there is a problem.

Rather than wishing that it would disappear out of some misguided flag waving pride why not face up to it and try and force it to be dealt with.
Surely thats the responsible thing to do.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I get the feeling that you would rather this was brushed under the carpet and ignored rather than facing the issue and accepting that there is a problem.

Rather than wishing that it would disappear out of some misguided flag waving pride why not face up to it and try and force it to be dealt with.
Surely thats the responsible thing to do.

I would rather there be no more victims. the media is keen to make as many more victims as possible. The media seems to love victims.

[Tom4784]

Blaming the media is just another way of avoiding the issues. The media is needed to highlight cases of brutality and abuse of power otherwise it would go unchecked and things would never change for the better.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Blaming the media is just another way of avoiding the issues. The media is needed to highlight cases of brutality and abuse of power otherwise it would go unchecked and things would never change for the better.

Thanks for your input Mr. Murdoch

[Tom4784]

Deflection and avoidance again. Would you like me to find you a sand pit so you can bury your head in it?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Deflection and avoidance again. Would you like me to find you a sand pit so you can bury your head in it?

yes Dezzy that's exactly what i want, how clever and insightful of you to say that. That statement added so much to the conversation and it wasn't off topic or baiting at all. Wait, you're a mod?

lol seriously dude? very professional bro.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yes Dezzy that's exactly what i want, how clever and insightful of you to say that. That statement added so much to the conversation and it wasn't off topic or baiting at all. Wait, you're a mod?

lol seriously dude? very professional bro.

You, of all people, are accusing me of bating and going off topic?



That sad pit comment is fair because you are willfully ignorant, you've said as much in this thread by trying to divert blame onto the media. Now let's get back to the topic at hand, you've attempted to derail this thread for long enough.

[Shaun]

A grand jury has decided not to charge a Missouri policeman over the death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown.

Announcing the decision, state prosecutor Robert McCulloch said the jury exhaustively examined evidence.

Mr Brown's family said they were "profoundly disappointed". Police said shots were fired and cars vandalised after the announcement.

Michael Brown, 18, was killed by Darren Wilson in Ferguson on 9 August. His death sparked weeks of demonstrations.

Some protests turned violent, and police were criticised for responding with military grade riot equipment.

As the decision was announced late on Monday, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the police department in Ferguson, a suburb of St Louis.

They followed on radios and mobile phones as Mr McCulloch made a statement explaining the decision.

The prosecutor said that the jury's job had been to separate fact from fiction, and that some witness statements had been contradicted by physical evidence.

Mr Brown's family had joined public officials in calling for calm.

After the announcement, they issued a statement saying they were "profoundly disappointed that the killer of our child will not face the consequence of his actions".

A little later, Ferguson police said on their Twitter feed that shots had been fired, and some protesters were seen vandalising cars. Police responded with tear gas.

President Barack Obama made a statement urging those who disagreed with the grand jury's decision to protest peacefully.

The case has stoked racial tensions in the US, with many in the African American community calling for Mr Wilson to be charged with murder.

Protesters have been chanting, "Hands up, don't shoot" - a reference to statements by some witnesses who said Mr Brown had his hands up in apparent surrender to the officer when he was shot.

Police have said there was a struggle between the teenager and the officer before the shooting.

Missouri Governor Jay Nixon had declared a state of emergency in the area and called in 400 National Guard troops in anticipation of protests ahead of Monday's announcement.

Incredible.

[Mystic Mock]

How come there was 9 white Jury members in a predominantly black area?

Corruption is rife in the American Police Force, the Government protects The Police in most shootings of innocent civilians, imo USA need to sort it out as it is not good for the country (especially if you're black) to feel like you could be shot repeatedly before they even know that you've done anything wrong or not.

[Mystic Mock]

How come there was 9 white Jury members in a predominantly black area?

Corruption is rife in the American Police Force, the Government protects The Police in most shootings of innocent civilians, imo USA need to sort it out as it is not good for the country (especially if you're black) to feel like you could be shot repeatedly before they even know that you've done anything wrong or not.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Depressing but predictable. You knew as soon as it was getting announced that it was going to be no indictment because McCullough was hella defensive even blaming social media for sensationalizing the case and adding to the hysteria. Disgusting but nothing unexpected.

In other news, I have no clue whose bright idea it was to announce this at 9PM. Ferguson's a ****ing mess rn with riots and fires and tear gas.

[Kizzy]

There's a 30 day state of emergency imposed, this isn't going away....

[Mystic Mock]

Shots have gone off in Ferguson now.

And Protesters have marched to the White House.

[Mystic Mock]

Shots have gone off in Ferguson now.

And Protesters have marched to the White House.

[Ammi]

..he shot him 12 times..?...with the last shot entering the top of his head and with witnesses that his hands were raised at the time..?...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Some people will take advantage of any opportunity, like with the London Riots you were so keen on bringing up, it was a case of people using the protest as an excuse to loot. The looters and the protesters should not be marred with the same brush but sadly they are since it's an easy way to demonise the actual protesters and drag their protest through the mud.

Well put. Brilliant.

It's been known - even here in the UK - for the organisations being protested about, to actually orchestrate the lawless 'anarchist' element of otherwise peaceful protests by having thugs who have nothing to do with the protest, join in with it in order to actually initiate the looting and violence.

As you say, it is guaranteed to grab media attention, marginalise the real issue, and dilute any public sympathy for that issue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..he shot him 12 times..?...with the last shot entering the top of his head and with witnesses that his hands were raised at the time..?...

Yes
but the Cop faces no charges.



Once you attack a Officer
you can be shot dead
Its America

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There's a 30 day state of emergency imposed, this isn't going away....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
but the Cop faces no charges.



Once you attack a Officer
you can be shot dead
Its America

....12 shots is some fairly convincing shooting...how could he have been attacking him with his hands in the air..was he jumping on him or something...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm not denying it's a problem, but I am denying that it's a problem with America. America is by far the least racist country on this planet, get back to me when you have a black King of England.

The British Monarchy and The American Political System are two totally different systems. Comparison for critical purposes is ludicrous.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....12 shots is some fairly convincing shooting...how could he have been attacking him with his hands in the air..was he jumping on him or something...

That is not true



This is why he was found not guilty.