[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't where you are coming up with 'Someone is older it's ok if they are rude' though?

I have seen plenty of posts about Gary saying he is rude so what exactly is your point in relation to my posts above? I never mentioned rudeness in regards to age at all.

Originally Posted by Josy

Some old people do get grumpy and rude as they get older, it's just what happens,

You did refer to rudeness as a part of being old though.. you said 'it's just what happens' as if to excuse it and make it okay.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You did refer to rudeness as a part of being old though.. you said 'it's just what happens' as if to excuse it and make it okay.

Not until you brought it up though...which is why I don't really understand where you are going with your points that are in reply to my quotes.

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Not until you brought it up though...which is why I don't really understand where you are going with your points that are in reply to my quotes.

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

It might be a fact, but it doesn't make it okay, which a lot of people seem to disagree with.
I'm just saying, people who say that people dislike Gary because of his disabilities are ridiculous, i'm not saying you're one of those people, but i was just using your post as an example.
We're never going to see eye to eye about Gary, but it's getting increasingly annoying to see people try to excuse his behaviour with his disabilities.. again, not pointed at you

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

It might be a fact, but it doesn't make it okay, which a lot of people seem to disagree with.
I'm just saying, people who say that people dislike Gary because of his disabilities are ridiculous, i'm not saying you're one of those people, but i was just using your post as an example.
We're never going to see eye to eye about Gary, but it's getting increasingly annoying to see people try to excuse his behaviour with his disabilities.. again, not pointed at you

Umm people have actually posted on this forum they are sick hearing about Gary's hearing problems, and also go on to say he doesn't do any cooking/cleaning and he got excused from sleeping outside so he shouldn't be in the house, which is total discrimination btw, that was the point of my post above, nothing at all to do with rudeness.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Umm people have actually posted on this forum they are sick hearing about Gary's hearing problems, and also go on to say he doesn't do any cooking/cleaning and he got excused from sleeping outside so he shouldn't be in the house, which is total discrimination btw, that was the point of my post above, nothing at all to do with rudeness.

I fail to see how that is discrimination.. People also say that they're sick of hearing about Kellie's transition, that isn't discriminatory and she can't help that. the same as Gary can't help his deafness, so if people are using Gary's deafness as an excuse for his behaviour as people are using Kellie's transition as an excuse for hers, then i don't see why people aren't entitled to say that they're fed up of hearing about it without being labeled as discriminatory
But i do agree with you about the sleeping outside bit, it was right that he was taken out of that.. but, i doubt his hearing issues or his brain injuries would stop him from being able to wash a few dishes here and there.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I fail to see how that is discrimination.. People also say that they're sick of hearing about Kellie's transition, that isn't discriminatory and she can't help that. the same as Gary can't help his deafness, so if people are using Gary's deafness as an excuse for his behaviour as people are using Kellie's transition as an excuse for hers, then i don't see why people aren't entitled to say that they're fed up of hearing about it without being labeled as discriminatory
But i do agree with you about the sleeping outside bit, it was right that he was taken out of that.. but, i doubt his hearing issues or his brain injuries would stop him from being able to wash a few dishes here and there.

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

Yes.. but i haven't seen anyone say that, people have said that he shouldn't be in there if he isn't up to the job of doing the things that everyone needs to do, i personally don't feel this as I've seen that he is quite capable of doing things for himself, he just doesn't need to.. but i can see where people are coming from when they say that, It's not exactly fair on the others if he's in there getting a free ride while everyone else has to play every part of the show and he get's excused from things.
You have to see it from both points of view, not just the one in front of you.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Josy

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

why not? I did not see many with disabilities in the footy world cup finals

...........that's life

Mark L

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Josy

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

And it's also a fact that some people of any age (including 18) can be rude and grumpy, a reason why Ashleigh was constantly criticised on this forum because 'that's not how an 18 year old should be acting, they should be happy and enjoying life!!!!!!!'. But it's fine for Gary to be because he's 70? I like Gary, he's probably my favourite housemate, I was just agreeing with the OP that he made a good point and that when you think back to the summer and how many people were fed up with Ashleigh's age being brought up it's just the same thing now with Gary.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know why people get so annoyed when a HMs age is brought into an argument, it's silly to think that it's not relevant sometimes especially with particularly old/young HMs

I actually agree with this though in most cases. Just pointing out the double standards of saying it's okay for someone older but not someone younger

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And it's also a fact that some people of any age (including 18) can be rude and grumpy, a reason why Ashleigh was constantly criticised on this forum because 'that's not how an 18 year old should be acting, they should be happy and enjoying life!!!!!!!'. But it's fine for Gary to be because he's 70? I like Gary, he's probably my favourite housemate, I was just agreeing with the OP that he made a good point and that when you think back to the summer and how many people were fed up with Ashleigh's age being brought up it's just the same thing now with Gary.



I actually agree with this though in most cases. Just pointing out the double standards of saying it's okay for someone older but not someone younger

That's fair enough, tbh I'm not even watching CBB as I was away on holiday up until two days ago so I don't know what Gary is like but I would certainly make some allowances for a 70 year old and fair dues to him for doing it. I did watch BB just gone and I absolutely think Ashleighs age was relevant alot of times too, she was literally just out of school and still only a teenager after all

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's fair enough, tbh I'm not even watching CBB as I was away on holiday up until two days ago so I don't know what Gary is like but I would certainly make some allowances for a 70 year old and fair dues to him for doing it. I did watch BB just gone and I absolutely think Ashleighs age was relevant alot of times too, she was literally just out of school and still only a teenager after all

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