[Macie Lightfoot]

How can you say that he's a fighter who stayed against all odds when you admitted in the previous sentence that Grodner's rigging it for him? there were no odds to overcome if that's the case

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

How can you say that he's a fighter who stayed against all odds when you admitted in the previous sentence that Grodner's rigging it for him? there were no odds to overcome if that's the case

Macie, you are logical as always. Seeing how you put it there, you are right. BUT. If he believed there were odds to be overcome, like, he didn't know about the rigging, then my statement against being booed stands.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Those aren't even the worst things about Frankie but I guess that speaks more about how deplorable he is alol

and why are we pretending Aaryn was a good player now? She was a ho puppet and nothing more.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Those aren't even the worst things about Frankie but I guess that speaks more about how deplorable he is alol

and why are we pretending Aaryn was a good player now? She was a ho puppet and nothing more.

Lol I said she played a decent game, and that's solely because she won quite a few comps so was a decent player in that sense. But decent, can't quite say she was 'good'

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Those aren't even the worst things about Frankie but I guess that speaks more about how deplorable he is alol

and why are we pretending Aaryn was a good player now? She was a ho puppet and nothing more.

Because she's a goddess!

[Samm]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Because she's a goddess!

Why are most of your favs blonde girls lol

I've got nothing wrong with Ashleigh tbh

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Because she's a goddess!

i like aaryn aswell to be honest

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i like aaryn aswell to be honest

[Samm]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i like aaryn aswell to be honest

Um why? She's a Rasict, she's homophobic and the list goes on

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Um why? She's a Rasict, she's homophobic and the list goes on

despite that i like her,

she just had a bad 2 weeks, people can change, look at jade goody

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

and why are we pretending Aaryn was a good player now? She was a ho puppet and nothing more.

She wasn't bad at all between her comp wins & her change in strategy after her rough start. She was smart to be a "ho puppet" because if she wasn't she'd have been out like around Week 4 at best. She did what she had to, she just had a lot to overcome and got unlucky to end up being paired on the block with Andy.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

She wasn't bad at all between her comp wins & her change in strategy after her rough start. She was smart to be a "ho puppet" because if she wasn't she'd have been out like around Week 4 at best. She did what she had to, she just had a lot to overcome and got unlucky to end up being paired on the block with Andy.

She was terrible. Her comp wins don't mean anything because she had a ton of power but didn't use it well at all. She had a terrible social game early on (which is why she got off to such a rough start), she controlled GM's HoH but wasted it on getting Candice out of all people, and the first fast forward night was a mess and proved that Aaryn just wanted to please people and do what the house wanted. Judd's eviction did nothing for her, and then using her final HoH to get Helen out was another incredible waste. She was nothing but McCranda's ho puppet who could win comps for them, and the fact that she got 8th ****ing place despite winning four HoHs shows how bad she is.

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

She was terrible. Her comp wins don't mean anything because she had a ton of power but didn't use it well at all. She had a terrible social game early on (which is why she got off to such a rough start), she controlled GM's HoH but wasted it on getting Candice out of all people, and the first fast forward night was a mess and proved that Aaryn just wanted to please people and do what the house wanted. Judd's eviction did nothing for her, and then using her final HoH to get Helen out was another incredible waste. She was nothing but McCranda's ho puppet who could win comps for them, and the fact that she got 8th ****ing place despite winning four HoHs shows how bad she is.

But getting Candice out was good for her game though for the obvious reasons.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

She was terrible. Her comp wins don't mean anything because she had a ton of power but didn't use it well at all. She had a terrible social game early on (which is why she got off to such a rough start), she controlled GM's HoH but wasted it on getting Candice out of all people, and the first fast forward night was a mess and proved that Aaryn just wanted to please people and do what the house wanted. Judd's eviction did nothing for her, and then using her final HoH to get Helen out was another incredible waste. She was nothing but McCranda's ho puppet who could win comps for them, and the fact that she got 8th ****ing place despite winning four HoHs shows how bad she is.

-Agreed on terrible social game early on - but she still overcame it with that "do what others want" "ho puppet" strategy you're talking about rather than getting taken out the next week.
-Candice was a pretty good choice to take out for both her and GM.
-Judd's eviction did nothing to hurt her either and there weren't many other ways to go that week without getting a group against her or making a more useless move for her.
-Taking Helen out was her big mistake but she chose a side with 3AM, which was good for her, and then got very unlucky I think the next week when Elissa won HOH and failed to take out Amanda after she won POV.


She wasn't great but easily above average. A LOT better than most people last season and this season, and a pretty smart strategy that she used after the position she put herself in early on.

[Mokka]

I am mentally sitting at 51% no and 49% yes.

I think my Canadian side is shining through right now.
Always polite, always right!!

[JerseyWins]

Well, I don't necessarily think anyone deserves to be booed coming out of that house but it's still fun to see as a new element to eviction night that was never really there until last season.

So if booing is a thing now, and since Christine got booed, Frankie should be booed as well for sure.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah true, "shut up go make some rice" is truly the pinnacle of racial humor and wit #aaryngoddess #teampretty

[Mokka]

So the pattern I am seeing here is:
Aaryn was deplorable but not fake, so she is forgivable.
Frankie has been deplorable at times, but fake all the time so he is worse?

Or are his transgressions just fresher in our minds

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

So the pattern I am seeing here is:
Aaryn was deplorable but not fake, so she is forgivable.
Frankie has been deplorable at times, but fake all the time so he is worse?

Or are his transgressions just fresher in our minds

discussing about raping someone is worst then being racist to be honest! both wrong but i hated frankie since day 1 tbh

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by LukeB

discussing about raping someone is worst then being racist to be honest! both wrong but i hated frankie since day 1 tbh

I don't know if you can compare the two instances with greater than less than measurements. Racism has lead to some epic historical atrocities when allowed to continue unchecked, as people here seem to do with Aaryn.

[AarynGriesfan]

Aaryn had a bad 2 weeks in the house. Frankie probably has been a horrible person all his life.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Aaryn had a bad 2 weeks in the house. Frankie probably has been a horrible person all his life.

I feel the same about Aaryn. She has probable been a racist/horrible person her whole life and we got to see it under a microscope, much like how we are seeing Frankie.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Aaryn had a bad 2 weeks in the house.

: joker:

[Marc]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Aaryn had a bad 2 weeks in the house. Frankie probably has been a horrible person all his life.

[Donovan.]

I think the main difference between Frankie hate and Aaryn hate is, even though Aaryn was clearly worse in the amount of offensive things she said, she did actually seem to let loose and have some fun while in the house. It definitely wasn't enough for me to start liking her, but I could see where some started to warm to her. All of the fun-loving things Frankie's done in the house have been for camera time. And that's annoying as ****.