[Headie]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Whoever wins this series is who Simon is trying to paint as the “villain” of the year, Fleur would do a lot better not winning, the same goes for Ben and Andrea as the material that any of these would be given if they won would be truly dire, Syco do it time and time again unless it's a group of a kind.

Time to get over this myth of "winners never do well, runer-ups do better". Yes, maybe that was true when the show was at its peak in 2009/2010, but ever since 2011 the winners have always had more success than the "losers"

2011: Little Mix won, had a fair few chart hits. Closest to success out of the losers was Amelia Lily with one song that charted decent?

2012: James Arthur won, his winners single did extremely well and 'Nobody til Somebody Loves You' did very well too, only Ella Henderson has managed to equal his success, although she will probably overtake him soon (granted, James is irrelevant now, but still had great success)

2013: Sam Bailey won. Her album sold more copies than Ella Henderson's did this year. Where is Nicholas McDonald? Where is Luke Friend?

The show has past its prime now. It's much better to win and be guaranteed a hit or two than to lose the show and risk not even being signed.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

Time to get over this myth of "winners never do well, runer-ups do better". Yes, maybe that was true when the show was at its peak in 2009/2010, but ever since 2011 the winners have always had more success than the "losers"

2011: Little Mix won, had a fair few chart hits. Closest to success out of the losers was Amelia Lily with one song that charted decent?

2012: James Arthur won, his winners single did extremely well and 'Nobody til Somebody Loves You' did very well too, only Ella Henderson has managed to equal his success, although she will probably overtake him soon (granted, James is irrelevant now, but still had great success)

2013: Sam Bailey won. Her album sold more copies than Ella Henderson's did this year. Where is Nicholas McDonald? Where is Luke Friend?

The show has past its prime now. It's much better to win and be guaranteed a hit or two than to lose the show and risk not even being signed.

Luke Friend is working on his album. It will be out in summer.

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Originally Posted by NevaSnow

Luke Friend is working on his album. It will be out in summer.

With a relatively unheard of label, I believe? At least with Syco/Sony you are guaranteed promo/press etc. And you can only be guaranteed that if you win.

Most acts make albums after XF is over, but none ever do that well (2011 onwards I'm talking about)

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

With a relatively unheard of label, I believe? At least with Syco/Sony you are guaranteed promo/press etc. And you can only be guaranteed that if you win.

Most acts make albums after XF is over, but none ever do that well (2011 onwards I'm talking about)

He's with Sony and has the same management as Ella Henderson : Crown management.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by NevaSnow

He's with Sony and has the same management as Ella Henderson : Crown management.

Well done to him.

We shall see if he flops or not. People might have forgot about him by then. I don't think it will help that Ben will still be fresh in peoples minds too, as they are similar artists.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

Well done to him.

We shall see if he flops or not. People might have forgot about him by then. I don't think it will help that Ben will still be fresh in peoples minds too, as they are similar artists.

They will need to promote it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

Time to get over this myth of "winners never do well, runer-ups do better". Yes, maybe that was true when the show was at its peak in 2009/2010, but ever since 2011 the winners have always had more success than the "losers"

2011: Little Mix won, had a fair few chart hits. Closest to success out of the losers was Amelia Lily with one song that charted decent?

2012: James Arthur won, his winners single did extremely well and 'Nobody til Somebody Loves You' did very well too, only Ella Henderson has managed to equal his success, although she will probably overtake him soon (granted, James is irrelevant now, but still had great success)

2013: Sam Bailey won. Her album sold more copies than Ella Henderson's did this year. Where is Nicholas McDonald? Where is Luke Friend?

The show has past its prime now. It's much better to win and be guaranteed a hit or two than to lose the show and risk not even being signed.

Girl groups and boybands can sell very easily, me or you could make them types of groups successful and we're just the average joe on the street.

Sam Bailey hasn't exactly set the world on fire, Luke and Tamera will be much bigger when they release their material next year.

James Arthur bombed and he should've been a success considering he was talented and contemporary.

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Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

This is very true.

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Girl groups and boybands can sell very easily, me or you could make them types of groups successful and we're just the average joe on the street.

Sam Bailey hasn't exactly set the world on fire, Luke and Tamera will be much bigger when they release their material next year.

James Arthur should've been a success considering he was talented and contemporary.

All of this is just your opinion.

Very rich of you to say Fleur fans "attack" other fans when you have been making anti-Fleur threads for the past week in an attempt to get Lauren to stay (look how that turned out...)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

All of this is just your opinion.

Very rich of you to say Fleur fans "attack" other fans when you have been making anti-Fleur threads for the past week in an attempt to get Lauren to stay (look how that turned out...)

Alright this is gonna make me sound like I'm 7 years old but Fleur fans did start it during week 3 when both had ropey performances, Lauren fans accepted that while Fleur fans was making out that she was superb and how she showed up everybody else in the competition (especially Lauren) some was saying on DS.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Alright this is gonna make me sound like I'm 7 years old but Fleur fans did start it during week 3 when both had ropey performances, Lauren fans accepted that while Fleur fans was making out that she was superb and how she showed up everybody else in the competition (especially Lauren) some was saying on DS.

DS is completely different to TiBB so I'm not sure what you're suggesting

If that's why you dislike Fleur so much then I feel sorry for you tbh... you should judge an act based on themselves, not who their fans are.