[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

The UK is not some refuge for folks who have sh1t countries.

Thats one way of looking at it on the other hand you could say isnt it great that so many people think they can have a better life in this country.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thats one way of looking at it on the other hand you could say isnt it great that so many people think they can have a better life in this country.

No, being an easy touch has no virtue

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

No, being an easy touch has no virtue

Its just a different way at looking at the same thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its just a different way at looking at the same thing.

The latter has an impact on our economy and makes people cross. I am sure that if you walked down a few kentish coastal town high streets and gauged their sympathy levels it would be very low.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

The latter has an impact on our economy and makes people cross. I am sure that if you walked down a few kentish coastal town high streets and gauged their sympathy levels it would be very low.

I'm sure you're right about the sympathy level in Kentish coastal towns but I was simply highlighting how people see the same things differently.

[Ammi]

..how lucky we are that we have hospitals..that we have schools, roads, homes, safe drainage etc..an opportunity to earn a wage...how lucky we are that most of us don't have to make any self-preserving decisions that could actually endanger our lives...but some countries don't have what we have and some people do have to make those decisions and do have to take risks that they should never have to, to risk their lives just to try to have a life that will give them something...how silly of them....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..how lucky we are that we have hospitals..that we have schools, roads, homes, safe drainage etc..an opportunity to earn a wage...how lucky we are that most of us don't have to make any self-preserving decisions that could actually endanger our lives...but some countries don't have what we have and some people do have to make those decisions and do have to take risks that they should never have to, to risk their lives just to try to have a life that will give them something...how silly of them....

Yeah I think people lambasting him for being 'stupid' or 'reckless' are sort of missing the point. He wasn't doing this for fun or as a part of some game, I'm sure he knew full well the risks and that it was an incredibly dangerous thing to do, coming from a country like that you're going to have a greater appreciation than any of us about life's dangers and its difficulties. This was a risk he took which didn't pay off, he gambled with his life to get into this country because the alternative was considered so much worse.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..how lucky we are that we have hospitals..that we have schools, roads, homes, safe drainage etc..an opportunity to earn a wage...how lucky we are that most of us don't have to make any self-preserving decisions that could actually endanger our lives...but some countries don't have what we have and some people do have to make those decisions and do have to take risks that they should never have to, to risk their lives just to try to have a life that will give them something...how silly of them....

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