[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Irrational scare-mongering put aside where it belongs, there is only one thing wrong with Cameron's proposition - it does not go far enough.

The world is changing, becoming more violent and degenerate with each day, and desperate times call for desperate measures.

All babies born in the UK should be fingerprinted and have their DNA taken. These should then be stored on a National computer similar to HOLMES.

This will enable the police to quickly identify future murderers and criminals who leave DNA traces behind and assist them to rapidly apprehend them, as well as greatly assisting the Security and Intelligence Services to keep track of the movements of future suspected terrorists.

All other citizens of the UK should be issued with Identity Cards complete with photogaph. They should also have their fingerprints taken and their DNA taken. These should be stored with a copy of their photograph on the same computer as above.

This will enable the police to quickly identify murderers and criminals who leave DNA traces behind, and assist them to rapidly apprehend them, as well as greatly assisting the Security and Intelligence Services to keep track of the movements of suspected terrorists.

All immigrants to the UK should should be issued with Identity Cards complete with photogaph. They should also have their fingerprints taken and their DNA taken. These should be stored with a copy of their photograph on the same computer as above.

This will enable the police to quickly identify murderers and criminals who leave DNA traces behind, and also enable them to rapidly apprehend them, as well as greatly assisting the Security and Intelligence Services to keep track of the movements of suspected terrorists.

All visitors to the UK should be issued with Identity Cards complete with photogaph. They should also have their fingerprints taken and their DNA taken. These should be stored with a copy of their photograph on the same computer as above.

The Identity Cards should be retrieved by Customs Officers upon the visitors exiting the UK and filed. This will enable any absconders to be instantly noticed, instead of them merely disappearing into the ether as currently, and will also result in the precise numbers of absconders being known instead of the 'finger in the wind' estimates currently trotted out.

This will also enable the police to quickly identify murderers and criminals who leave DNA traces behind, and assist them to rapidly apprehend them, as well as greatly assisting the Security and Intelligence Services to keep track of the movements of suspected terrorists.

We all have a duty to help those who who daily put their lives on the line to both protect us from our enemies, and maintain the security of this country, and no sane, rational, law-abiding person who is loyal to this country and appreciative of the democratic freedoms it affords, should object to the above measures.

It is not a precursor to any Orwellian dystopian nightmare future, nor the first step on a slippery road to fascism, it is a scheme of necessary and overdue measures to ensure our survival in an increasingly violent world and 'cliched' or not, only those with something to hide will object.

Sorry can't agree with this.I have nothing at all to hide but this is too far.If we as a nation have to resort to finger printing our children as they are born and having to carry ID cards around then the terrorists have won already.They want to scare us into losing our freedoms and that would be exactly what they would have done if this was implemented.As TS said that would be an Orwellian dystopian nightmare.No government should have that much control over our freedoms.They are here to serve us.Next thing gradually it would become 'necessary for our security' to put trackers in those ID cards and then chips in UK babies with trackers in and so on.