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Quote=Kizzy;7510289]"See, this is my point do you in all seriousness think that this letter is the first line in reaching out to Muslim leaders?"


No one said that it was the very first initiative "in reaching out to Muslim Leaders", but 'another' attempt is better than no attempt at all.

"We were given a discussion on this topic during my studies in 2010...it's not a new thing it has been part and parcel of counter terrorism for years.
Did Pickles don his cape to save the day? No he did not he just perpetuated the myth that Mosques are full of terrorists."


This actually confirms that Nedusa is actually correct in both her assertions, and her assumptions, because it means that despite the UK government consistently making appeals to the ordinary, moderate UK Muslim communities and their leaders, in attempt to persuade them to condemn the Islamic Extremists and to help our Security and Intelligence Services to defeat terrorism by cooperating with information, here they are still trying 6 years later. One can assume then, that such government pleas has continued to fall on deaf ears or on Muslims unwilling to listen.

No - Pickles did not "don" any "cape to save the day", he merely tried to take the initiative to try to appeal to any moderate Muslims to help totry to "save the day" -- along with trying to save innocent lives, and billions of pounds worth of further needless destruction to various countries, and, indeed, trying to save this country and every other democratic country from eventually succumbing to escalating terrorism and ultimately being 'Islamified' as a consequence.

In addition, no one on here has ever stated or inferred that "Mosques are full of terrorists." and I have never seen it expressed anywhere by any intelligent and sane person.

However, it is a fact that all the demonic Islamic Terrorists who have hailed from the UK - including the murderers of poor Lee Rigby and Jihadi John - were, by nature of being Muslim, part of the UK Muslim community, and, by nature of being 'extremely' devout, were part of the congregation of UK Mosques. Therefore, while it is obviously ludicrous to state that UK "Mosques are full of terrorists", it is equally as ludicrous to suggest that there are definitely no terrorists residing among the UK Muslim communities and no terrorists attending some UK Mosques.

Quite clearly there are. Which exonerates Pickles and validates the need for his letter.

"Objectives
The strategy now contains three objectives, these are to:

respond to the ideological challenge of terrorism and the threat from those who promote it
prevent people from being drawn into terrorism and ensure that they are given appropriate advice and support
work with sectors and institutions where there are risks of radicalisation that we need to address
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-strategy-2011"

Where does Pickles' initiative not dovetail into the above categories?

Is he not trying to respond to the challenge of terrorism and the threat from those who promote it?

Is he not stressing the need to educate Muslims against being 'radicalised' and advocating better education on terrorism to prevent them being 'drawn in' to it?

Are not the many Muslim areas of the UK and Mosques indeed "sectors and institutions" where there are risks of radicalisation that we need to address?

"The scope of this revised CONTEST strategy has been broadened to cover all forms of terrorism.

Our counter-terrorism strategy will continue to be organised around 4 workstreams, each comprising a number of key objectives

Pursue: to stop terrorist attacks
Prevent: to stop people becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism
Protect: to strengthen our protection against a terrorist attack
Prepare: to mitigate the impact of a terrorist attack

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rategy-contest"
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With respect; Pickles' letter again falls squarely within the parameters of the above brief.