[Philanthropite]

lol I'm not here to take either side but I have to point out that SHE herself said she learnt the Alphabet within the last 3 years, implying she only just got around to learning them, not that she couldn't learn them due to dyslexia. I don't necessarily think she's thick though just not taught properly. It's a sad truth that there are still many adult men and woman who struggle to read and write and it's institutions we should be pointing our fingers at. I'm not saying they are the root cause mind you because lazy people do exist but Alicia doesn't strike me as lazy because shes trying her best for her kid/s

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Philanthropite

SHE herself said she learnt the Alphabet within the last 3 years, implying she only just got around to learning them, not that she couldn't learn them due to dyslexia.

A bit odd though without dyslexia.

[Jason.]

I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism

There is a whole lot more to Narcissistic personality disorder than self obsession. If any one of us went down the long list of Narcissistic character traits, every one of us would tick off a few boxes but those few boxes are meaningless.

No I'm not saying she isn't narcissistic because she's mentally fragile. Mental fragility is very much a trait of a narcissist.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

That thought had crossed my mind.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by MB.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

And because you do like her you believe every word.?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by BB6

I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.

Or they would send them to one of the many schools that are provided free of charge?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't get your knickers in a twist,just because you like her,I don't like her , but ,all I said was I couldn't find the story on it, and she has proven to lie so I am bound to be dubious,if she has it fair enough,but as Amy Jade said it's no reason to be dim.

I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.

For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

[Dia]

[bots]

Its been widely reported that Calum had a relationship with her previously. If she was different now from then, I think he would have called her out as being fake. I also think its a bit rich for him to be ridiculing her for being slow given he has had that previous relationship. I would much rather she was saved than him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.


For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

I am giving that the Kirk 3 handclaps

[susie q]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Such a shame she wasn't given more attention when she was younger.

I wonder if she has ever been diagnosed or if she has self diagnosed.
Took years for my daughter to get her diagnosis, schools were not really interested or capable at the time.

I have an older sister, now in her 60s who has it. She had dreadful time at school duriing the 50s&60s, and was eventually put in a special school for subnormal children! Fortunately for her we had caring (but poor)parents who took her out of it and set up an apprenticeship with textile firm. where she trained and became a very skilled seamstress, a job she continued with until retirement a couple years ago. She was eventually diagnosed in her mid forties
when she went to adult literacy classes to try and improve things, the class helped her a lot. I think its disgraceful that Alicias shool/parents didnt do anything for her.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am giving that the Kirk 3 handclaps

I have died and gone to LT heaven.