[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...owed/70366174/



SALT LAKE CITY – Utah became the only state to allow firing squads for executions Monday when Gov. Gary Herbert signed a law approving the controversial method's use when no lethal-injection drugs are available.

Herbert has said he finds the firing squad "a little bit gruesome," but Utah is a capital punishment state and needs a backup execution method in case a shortage of the drugs persists.




Far better idea than fannying around with electricity and drugs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-death-penalty

[Kizzy]

What the heck happened in 99! 2 a week

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What the heck happened in 99! 2 a week

lots of perps

lots of justice

[JoshBB]

oh ****ing hell,

we can get used to extremism now it appears the republicans could win

[empire]

it sounds like the us leaders are in fear of the people, I can see a civil war happening, soon in a few years time, that country is now a police state, fire squads is the sort of thing that control's through fear, of the people not to rise up, lethal injection is painless, than a firing squad, type of death,

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by empire

it sounds like the us leaders are in fear of the people, I can see a civil war happening, soon in a few years time, that country is now a police state, fire squads is the sort of thing that control's through fear, of the people not to rise up, lethal injection is painless, than a firing squad, type of death,

it's a real step backwards

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lots of perps

lots of justice

Not true LT - Utah is the Morman capital of the USA, and all that happened during that period, is that the state executed the entire clan of the Osmonds for crimes against music and that boosted the total.

[Kizzy]

Mormons? bit bloodthirsty for religious folks :/

[empire]

utah is the morman bible belt of the nation, some of there parents are really strict with their children, some of there punishments towards there own children would shock you, they use, some sort of arrange type marriage, called placement marriage, morman church is a little bit backward for my understanding,

[Kizzy]

You're lucky... ALL churches are a little bit backwards in my understanding

[lostalex]

only 35 people were put to death in the US last year? that blows my mind. 35 people out of over 300 million??

for some reason i thought there were a lot more people being killed by the death penalty.

as far as the firing squad thing goes, it doesn't bother me. i'd rather get the firing squad than worry about a botched lethal injection execution.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by empire

utah is the morman bible belt of the nation, some of there parents are really strict with their children, some of there punishments towards there own children would shock you, they use, some sort of arrange type marriage, called placement marriage, morman church is a little bit backward for my understanding,

i think southern baptists are far more extreme than the mormons.

[BBfanUSA]

Firing Squads are more ethic nowadays than the poison that they inject if you get the chair.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not true LT - Utah is the Morman capital of the USA, and all that happened during that period, is that the state executed the entire clan of the Osmonds for crimes against music and that boosted the total.

Thanks for that Kirk. I woke up feeling grumpy, read your post and had my first laugh of the day.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Thanks for that Kirk. I woke up feeling grumpy, read your post and had my first laugh of the day.

No prob Jenny - Glad someone got the joke.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by empire

it sounds like the us leaders are in fear of the people, I can see a civil war happening, soon in a few years time, that country is now a police state, fire squads is the sort of thing that control's through fear, of the people not to rise up, lethal injection is painless, than a firing squad, type of death,

Painless? Well yeah I guess, if you consider having your body paralysed by intense muscle cramps and then being unable to move, speak or breathe properly while you're injected with another substance that makes you have a heart attack to be "painless"...

I'd rather have them put a bullet between my eyes to be honest.

[letmein]

Quite a lot of sociopaths in this thread.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Painless? Well yeah I guess, if you consider having your body paralysed by intense muscle cramps and then being unable to move, speak or breathe properly while you're injected with another substance that makes you have a heart attack to be "painless"...

I'd rather have them put a bullet between my eyes to be honest.

Same here

[Kizzy]

How is lethal injection not working,massive sedative and a poison.. what's the problem?

Many venoms can kill in minutes, if you were sedated then injected with a pre prepared dose of venom then it would be game over.

It would be less damaging to the person administering the punishment, who (in there right mind) would want to blow someones brains out?

[smudgie]

Firing squad is just too barbaric for me.

They can put a dog to sleep painlessly in no time at all, surely they can do the same with humans

[Livia]

I'd take a hail of bullets over a needle.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Firing squad is just too barbaric for me.

They can put a dog to sleep painlessly in no time at all, surely they can do the same with humans

The drug companies will not sell to the states involved as they dont want their products associated.

Why they dont make them kneel down in a grave and pop them one in the back of the head with a rifle is beyond me

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How is lethal injection not working,massive sedative and a poison.. what's the problem?

Many venoms can kill in minutes, if you were sedated then injected with a pre prepared dose of venom then it would be game over.

It would be less damaging to the person administering the punishment, who (in there right mind) would want to blow someones brains out?

The anaesthetic isn't administered by doctors or trained anaesthetists, post-mortem studies of adrenaline levels etc. Suggest that huge numbers of people (many studies show higher than 50%, some show up to 90%) killed by lethal injection experience pain, with up to 40% actually being conscious during the process.

There are two elements of sedation. One knocks you out so that you are unaware, the other is a muscle relaxant that paralyses you - so you can't move, open your eyes or make a sound. The former is a balancing act and can fail, the latter is reliable. This means you can appear to be unconscious but actually be fully aware, but completely paralysed.

The third injection that kills you causes intense muscle spasms and contractions, literally burns in the blood, and causes cardiac arrest. Which you could also feel until your heart actually stops.

...or you could take a large caliber bullet to the head and be dead before you even hear the shot. I'd opt for that, personally.

[Kizzy]

Then refine the process, How difficult can it be to render someone unconscious?
Many have general anesthetics everyday while they are operated on, can this not be manipulated so they simply slip away?
I didn't really appreciate the description to be honest, nor did I request it.
Those with a morbid fascination for guns might feel this is some natural born killers Hollywood inspired death, I think the reality it will be very different. It does not take into consideration the person having to do the shooting either.