[Crimson Dynamo]

anyone see what the viewing figs were?

[Crimson Dynamo]

[joeysteele]

I am sure it was ICM who said the 54 to 46 one,anyway both are pretty much as near to a dead heat you can get.
Allowing for margins of error,that is more likely what it was really perceived to be.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

anyone see what the viewing figs were?

2.6m on Channel 4 apparently. Not bad but the first TV debate in 2010 got about 9m viewers

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

It's hard to defend the indefensible, both the PM and Ed Miliband were always going to struggle to defend their records.

Mr Cameron's lacklustre 5 years in Govt where he promised so much and delivered almost nothing the only bright spot I guess is the fall in unemployment but even that has probably been achieved through massaging the way the numbers are counted coupled with the rise of zero hour jobs which in my mind are not really proper jobs at all.

Overall the National debt is still rising we are still borrowing huge amounts of money each year just to survive as a country, meanwhile Big Banks and Big Business continue to make billions in profit but your average person in the street is no better off just look at the number of people visiting Food banks.

So Mr Paxman did not have to try too hard to pull Mr Cameron's record in office to pieces.

As for Mr Miliband well he is still tainted by the last Labour Govt call it guilty by association, Ed Miliband is well meaning and probably quite passionate about helping the GBP especially the ones who need help the most, but like countless Labour Govt's in the past they are guilty of reckless spending to achieve these aims and not understanding that this money has to be paid back eventually.

You cannot keep giving people more and more and asking for less and less in return, and the policy of uncontrolled immigration in an effort to boost productivity has been nothing short of a disaster for this Country.

So Mr Paxman had plenty of ammo to throw at Mr Miliband.

As a footnote to the debate I was surprised Mr Paxman chose to go after the man (Ed Miliband) in such a personal way, the questions about his brother and his appeal are quite frankly just bitchy , Mr Paxman should have attacked his policies or proposed policies NOT Mr Miliband.

Credit to Ed Miliband though he did defend himself and I think all in all did himself no real harm albeit after a shaky start.

All to play for now as they move on to the next debate.

Couldn't of said it better myself.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes sounds about right

[Northern Monkey]

Did'nt bother with it.Not a debate,Just a Q'n'A.

[Kizzy]

How.... How can he be winning? it makes no sense.
The questioning by paxman was a joke cameron was allowed to rattle on about nothing for the majority of the interview whilst paxman sat back crossed legged in awe!
He wasn't personally harangued, pressed for figures or held accountable for the misdemeanors of past leaders.
He wasn't questioned on tuition fees, trident, the housing crisis, the failings/costings of the welfare reforms and most importantly the NHS.


Glad it's not just me... questions on shredded wheat and being gloomy, just a joke ...I hope the electorate get some better questions posed at the next one this was farcical!

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...100-complaints

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its easier to have a go the pm and just hang all the countries ills on him and its easy to look good when your personality polls are in the toilet like milliband

[bots]

When all is said and done, I thought both were pretty mediocre at best. Neither are anything other than passable orators, neither knew their issues clearly enough or had all the relevant facts available for recall.

The interviews by Jeremy were inconsistent and poorly focussed and Kay Burley was well ... enough said.

I expect a leader to have a certain spark about them, Maggie had it, Tony Blair had it. Its charisma backed up with intelligence, vision and strength of character. People with a clear vision of what they want to achieve and that know how its going to be done, and that can clearly explain it. These guys just don't measure up.