[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

Do you think drug smuggling isn't barbaric.

It's wrong, but death is a bit extreme for it.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's wrong, but death is a bit extreme for it.

800 people died horrible deaths from heroin alone in the UK in 2013 all a direct result of drug trafficking.

The people bringing the drugs in might just have thought twice if we had the same legal system as Indonesia.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

800 people died horrible deaths from heroin alone in the UK in 2013 all a direct result of drug trafficking.

The people bringing the drugs in might just have thought twice if we had the same legal system as Indonesia.

Death is not a deterrent. They have it in the States and people continue to kill.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Death is not a deterrent. They have it in the States and people continue to kill.

It's the ULTIMATE deterrent for those executed in that it definitely deters them from repeating the crime.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It's the ULTIMATE deterrent for those executed in that it definitely deters them from repeating the crime.

but not others.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

but not others.

No - not those who let greed so cloud their judgement that value making 'easy money' more than they value their lives.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

800 people died horrible deaths from heroin alone in the UK in 2013 all a direct result of drug trafficking.

The people bringing the drugs in might just have thought twice if we had the same legal system as Indonesia.

Yes but these traffickers aren't directly responsible for that though, as much sympathy as I have for heroin addicts, they choose to take the drug themselves. Do you reckon more or less people die from alcohol related deaths every year? And should breweries, off-licences etc bear some of the responsibility for that, do you think?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but these traffickers aren't directly responsible for that though, as much sympathy as I have for heroin addicts, they choose to take the drug themselves. Do you reckon more or less people die from alcohol related deaths every year? And should breweries, off-licences etc bear some of the responsibility for that, do you think?

It's a different situation, as different as the comparisons you opposed on another thread today almost, hard drugs fund terrorism, prostitution, child abuse, they are illegal.
The traffickers are a link in the chain then it's kudos to their govt for taking the initiative to break that chain. Will this be enough of a deterrent to prevent any more attempt to smuggle drugs? I doubt it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's a different situation, as different as the comparisons you opposed on another thread today almost, hard drugs fund terrorism, prostitution, child abuse, they are illegal.
The traffickers are a link in the chain then it's kudos to their govt for taking the initiative to break that chain. Will this be enough of a deterrent to prevent any more attempt to smuggle drugs? I doubt it.

A good post.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's a different situation, as different as the comparisons you opposed on another thread today almost, hard drugs fund terrorism, prostitution, child abuse, they are illegal.
The traffickers are a link in the chain then it's kudos to their govt for taking the initiative to break that chain. Will this be enough of a deterrent to prevent any more attempt to smuggle drugs? I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Helen 28

I know alcohol is a big killer far worse than drugs but I also think if all drugs were legal like booze the death rate would rocket.

The difference between the 2 is by law we can do something about drugs, because we can't stop boozing doesn't mean we can't cut drug use.

I do agree that drug users with rare exceptions have only themselves to blame but unfortunately their habit often kills others as well.

Fair points, I suppose the point I was trying to make is just that these traffickers aren't personally killing anyone so even in an eye for an eye type justice system this seems wrong

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but these traffickers aren't directly responsible for that though, as much sympathy as I have for heroin addicts, they choose to take the drug themselves. Do you reckon more or less people die from alcohol related deaths every year? And should breweries, off-licences etc bear some of the responsibility for that, do you think?

I know alcohol is a big killer far worse than drugs but I also think if all drugs were legal like booze the death rate would rocket.

The difference between the 2 is by law we can do something about drugs, because we can't stop boozing doesn't mean we can't cut drug use.

I do agree that drug users with rare exceptions have only themselves to blame but unfortunately their habit often kills others as well.