[Joyce M Short]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, that's actually what I was thinking myself aswell.

It might be morally wrong to lie to someone to get them into bed but you still choose to do it so it's not rape by any stretch of the imagination and it's pretty insulting to victims of actual rape to suggest that it's anywhere even near what they went through

Fraud is not just a crime that stands alone. It's a tool that is used to carry out a crime. Using fraud to steal something is theft by fraud. Using fraud to sexually assault someone is sexual assault by fraud.

When you lie to attract someone, you are not conducting a crime. When you lie to secure sex it is a crime because all sex requires consent and consent is INVALID when induced by DECEPTION.

Rape, sexual assault, is not only so when committed through violence. Violence is another tool that invalidates consent. Doping, Intoxicating, coercing and duping are all tools to sexually assault.

[Joyce M Short]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes of course it would be.

I'm not going to bother replying to this thread anymore because it is obvious that nobody agrees with me though I have my opinions and I will stick with them

JoshBB-

You're correct. There are cases in London where women were tried, and convicted of rape by fraud.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Joyce M Short

JoshBB-

You're correct. There are cases in London where women were tried, and convicted of rape by fraud.

..do you have any website links to those cases, Joyce..?...it would be interesting to read about them...

[Livia]

A woman cannot be convicted of rape in the UK unless she has a penis. She can be convicted of accessory to rape, or she can be convicted of sexual assault.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Joyce M Short

Fraud is not just a crime that stands alone. It's a tool that is used to carry out a crime. Using fraud to steal something is theft by fraud. Using fraud to sexually assault someone is sexual assault by fraud.

When you lie to attract someone, you are not conducting a crime. When you lie to secure sex it is a crime because all sex requires consent and consent is INVALID when induced by DECEPTION.

Rape, sexual assault, is not only so when committed through violence. Violence is another tool that invalidates consent. Doping, Intoxicating, coercing and duping are all tools to sexually assault.

I think you're doing a disservice to women and to genuine rape victims by trying to liken the two, personally and I say that as a woman

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

If some woman sleeps with a man only because she thinks he is wealthy/a big city banker then that just makes her incredibly shallow. She still willingly slept with the man, regardless, he never forced her to sleep with him. So no, just some crazy bitches looking for something else to whine about.

yet another absurd example of what evil lies feminism truly is