[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

Mr C. Umunna MP with girlfriend Alice Sullivan

bloodbath begins

Union-Labour Vs Blairites

No Bloodbath for him
He is out of the Contest

http://news.sky.com/story/1484585/ch...leadership-bid

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh dear a leadership crisis already?

[arista]

On SkyNewsHD the union Boss did
Not back Chuka
so he had to go

http://news.sky.com/story/1485048/la...ership-pitches



[After Chuka Umunna's withdrawal
from the Labour leadership race,
the remaining candidates will
speak at a conference later.]


Once again the Dumb Union will pick the Next Leader
or Labour with Die

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I say Rachael Reeves.

No the Unions removed her

[arista]

[MTVN]

I would like to see Liz Kendall now but can only see it being Burnham

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Unions removed her

What utter rubbish, Rachel is due to give birth to a new baby in June, that is one of the reasons she didn't put her name forward.
It would have been time consuming enough coping with a govt; department let alone the campaigning and endless attention and speeches she would have to give running for leader.

Miliband changed the Union rules on voting for the leader now too so that there is no block vote now in election of the Labour leader,
Your hate of Labour is badly clouding your judgement.

Rachel would have been a great leader in my view, however I can fully understand her putting her family first, especially as to a new baby too.
Being a govt; Minister, had Labour won, would have been far easier to cope with with a team behind her, than running for leader then becoming leader.

You were actually aware Rachel was heavily pregnant weren't you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Asked about the candidate who might win, Conservative Chancellor George Osborne said: "The Labour leadership contest has descended into farce.

"But it's not actually about personalities. I don't think the Labour Party any more represents the working people of this country who aspire to a better life."




George nailing it


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761561

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What utter rubbish, Rachel is due to give birth to a new baby in June, that is one of the reasons she didn't put her name forward.
It would have been time consuming enough coping with a govt; department let alone the campaigning and endless attention and speeches she would have to give running for leader.

Miliband changed the Union rules on voting for the leader now too so that there is no block vote now in election of the Labour leader,
Your hate of Labour is badly clouding your judgement.

Rachel would have been a great leader in my view, however I can fully understand her putting her family first, especially as to a new baby too.
Being a govt; Minister, had Labour won, would have been far easier to cope with with a team behind her, than running for leader then becoming leader.

You were actually aware Rachel was heavily pregnant weren't you.

Yes they did
But the Unions are still in charge of picking the next leader
they invest in Labour

Deal With that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Asked about the candidate who might win, Conservative Chancellor George Osborne said: "The Labour leadership contest has descended into farce.

"But it's not actually about personalities. I don't think the Labour Party any more represents the working people of this country who aspire to a better life."




George nailing it


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761561

Very true

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I would like to see Liz Kendall now but can only see it being Burnham

Yes the Unions Pick Burnham

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes they did
But the Unions are still in charge of picking the next leader
they invest in Labour

Deal With that.

No they didn't,I disagree completely.
Also the Unions should have a say who is leader, there would never have been a Labour party without the trade unions.

They only have a say, they don't now control who is, and even so, while it is true they helped Ed Miliband win last time with the block vote, he gave the Unions very little of what they hoped for anyway.

Of course they invest in Labour,just as really big business invests in the Conservative party too.
Would you actually rather parties were funded by the taxpayer, because that is the only real alternative as to how things are now.

When big business is stopped from donating to the Conservative party, then it would be fair to criticise the Unions for doing so as to Labour too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Unions Pick Burnham

Well, they didn't last time he came 4th out of 5 candidates.Just ahead of Diane Abbott who oddly enough the Unions didn't support either.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well, they didn't last time he came 4th out of 5 candidates.Just ahead of Diane Abbott who oddly enough the Unions didn't support either.

Well they have to pick one of that weak punch


They are live on the news now

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Well they have to pick one of that weak punch


They are live on the news now

Just your biased view they are a weak bunch.

I don't see it that way, Yvette Cooper has skills that would.I believe, carry her to success.
Liz Kendall, is the likely dark horse but she can be really formidable,not to be underestimated.
Andy Burnham, is a dedicated politician and wrongly thought to be far left when he isn't, he could surprise if he were leader.

Mary Creagh has a calm matter of fact, attitude about her who could also bring some very new thinking,(relevant to most of the electorate),to the Labour party as leader.

If Tristram Hunt throws his hat into the ring,then he could really light things up,he has a good way of getting things across.

Not a weak bunch at all, that is just your prejudiced view against them,just as a fair bit of my view is towards them

[arista]

No Joey
I just look back your wasted long 5 Years
of backing Pathetic Labour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Joey
I just look back your wasted long 5 Years
of backing Pathetic Labour

No need to,thank you,I would rather spend years supporting what I believed to be right than to support any cowards and those who are heartless having power to use against the weakest in society.

At least I can say when the devastation hits people it shouldn't, that it had nothing at all to do with me.
I will never see that support for the last 3 years, not 5,you are wrong again, as wasted.
Just as likely those who supported the Conservatives during the 13 years Labour were in power, would not see that as wasted support either.

Unless the Conservative party get a leader like John Major, William Hague, Edward Heath,or the other just leaders from the 50s, then I can safely say I am unlikely to ever back the Conservatives again.
Most certainly not too,if any of, Boris Johnson, Theresa May,( god forbid), or George Osborne take over from David Cameron.

[Kizzy]

I look back at your blind faith Arista and wonder sometimes too We are all entitled to our views aren't we?
Nobody could hand on heart say they are better off under the conservatives unless they previously were well off that's the difference.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I look back at your blind faith Arista and wonder sometimes too We are all entitled to our views aren't we?
Nobody could hand on heart say they are better off under the conservatives unless they previously were well off that's the difference.

Of course you are Kizzy
but a proper leader is needed
not Burnham.

No everyone who voted Conservative
is well off
many are Hard Workers
but new that Labour was Anti Business
in its fashion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Of course you are Kizzy
but a proper leader is needed
not Burnham.

No everyone who voted Conservative
is well off
many are Hard Workers
but new that Labour was Anti Business
in its fashion.

I hope whoever they pick the only centrism they advocate it that of the Labour party in it's original vision.

That's not true, where is it written that Labour is anti business?
They were very pro small business and very anti the exploitation by big business there' a difference.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I hope whoever they pick the only centrism they advocate it that of the Labour party in it's original vision.

That's not true, where is it written that Labour is anti business?
They were very pro small business and very anti the exploitation by big business there' a difference.

It was using Profit as wrong, massive error
nothing to do with good old workers rights

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

It was using Profit as wrong, massive error
nothing to do with good old workers rights

Where did it do that? Of course profit isn't error yet when profit is placed over safety and or workers rights then it becomes an exploitative error for me.
Our energy companies are a great example of this, they are huge multi million pound corporations which exploit their service users by not passing the reductions in oil prices down to the customers, it is right that a government holds this practice to account not turn a blind eye while many freeze.

Business is good, cartels are bad.

[arista]

So many were interviewed on BBC NewsHD , SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD News , Ch5HDNews and ITV1HD News

Saying the Labour failed small business
and were anti profit

You must have seen this
the last year

[arista]

Youtube video

Kizzy because you block so much good news reports
I even copy Live News
this from march this year
I posted on another thread


Conservative are Positive

[joeysteele]

Rachel Reeves who is by far one the brightest and rising starts of Labour, who I wish had been able to run for leader,has endorsed Andy Burnham as her choice.

I like Andy,he is one of my political heroes,I'd like to see that.

Lord help him however as he will have the SUN against him all ways he turns, in the main because of after their horrendous slanderous lies about the real victims of Hillsborough, he tirelessly went on and on and helped that cause to get the real truth, until a proper inquiry was launched and put in place.
proving the Sun's take on it as pure lies and misrepresentative journalism that really,in my view, should have been illegal too.

He knows his stuff however and could be the face coupled with practical experience Labour needs now.