[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I think it's pretty clear that Joel is a closet case and there was definitely something between him and Aaron. However, being 19 and having your sexual confusion play out on national television must be terrifying to say the least, and I think it was pretty clear that Joel wasn't having whatever Aaron was serving. I think it's also pretty clear that Joel's laughter was nervous laughter, considering that this was a situation he never imagined himself in and probably never wanted to be in. And like I said, using your penis to make someone feel uncomfortable is certainly grounds for ejection. I really don't get what all the debate is over.

and btw this is coming from someone who hates Joel :3

..that's a really good post, Macie..I really don't know whether Joel is gay or not, but either way really it doesn't matter because it has no bearing really on how obviously uncomfortable he looked with the whole thing..