[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Don't worry I'm close to quitting this mess anyway.

And I can't take how nasty some people get in this series.

I'm not being nasty, I don't do nasty

[Withano]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Or you can understand other people may have different opinions to your own without being patronising.

The fact that I think he should have been warned and not ejected doesn't equate to me advocating sexual assault, good heavens

How much further would he had to have gone to justify an ejection? (Open question to everybody, not just Reece).

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Withano

How much further would he had to have gone to justify an ejection? (Open question to everybody, not just Reece).

If there was malicious intent.

A slap on the wrist and alcohol ban would have sufficed and he would have learnt his lesson. No one in the house wanted him to go but he let the alcohol get the better of him.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

thx Ammi. Obviously I can't say for certain that Joel's closeted but he's been pinging my gaydar for a while now. But you're absolutely right in that his sexual orientation doesn't change the situation.

..yeah my OH said that as well, that he was pinging his...but I think whatever his sexuality wouldn't really make any difference for me to what happened..I mean even if they did get baths together etc, that was Joel's choice and not something that was 'forced' on him..and if this was a male/female situation and a male doing to a female would Aaron did with Joel...and a situation in real life for instance, as in out of the BB house...it would never be an 'excuse' to say or think...well she/he was ok with this, so therefore this will be fine as well and within acceptability...not that anyone is saying that it was acceptable, but just I don't think that BB had any choice but to eject him...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If there was malicious intent.

A slap on the wrist and alcohol ban would have sufficed and he would have learnt his lesson. No one in the house wanted him to go but he let the alcohol get the better of him.

..but a different intent wouldn't really change anything in terms of what happened, reece...it's not really something that would define what someone did, just because there was no malicious intent...it was an action...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I haven't watched yet so I don't know lul

Thats no good they Cut Out
the Erect Cock


As Ofcom would have Massive Heart Attacks

[arista]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Im not sure if we have a few perverted flashers on tibb or just very misguided Aaron fans either way trying rub your genitals on a teenage boy is disgusting and trying to defend it is just ludicrous.

Bang On Right Bob

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I don't agree with the people saying he shouldn't have been removed but some of the comments in here are unnescessarily personal against the forum members. We're only here to discuss the housemates.

Someone that I disagree with on this topic, but said their point very well.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I'm not being nasty, I don't do nasty

I wasn't on about you.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

Relative to other behaviour that has gone unpunished and what other housemates have been ejected for, I don't think he should've been ejected. A warning would've been totally sufficient. Yes, he went too far but he thought he was having a laugh with a friend and it was in playful spirit. I'm not an Aaron fan and Joel was clearly uncomfortable and not inviting it, but the other housemates were egging Aaron on and laughing at it and to eject Aaron and not put any blame on the others is a bit unfair. I think a serious warning would've made Aaron take a look at his behaviour and stop it. It doesn't make any difference to me if it had been guy/girl or girl/guy; I think it's inappropriate behaviour, but not enough to eject someone for.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Behave everyone was encouraging Aaron

yeah a warning would have been sufficient

[Jay.]

yes, even though he was quite entertaining, he had to be ejected.

[-Sue-]

I think it was dealt with badly by Joel. He continued to laugh thus encouraging Aaron. BB could have dealt with it better & of course HMs encouraging Aron did not help either a sad loss to the BB house

[chuff me dizzy]

100% Yes

[Rorkimaru]

The problem is the producers not removing Aaron would be inadvertently saying that sort of behaviour is ok. Regardless of Joel being pompus and political he is a teenage virgin. Just because he is more mature in other ways doesn't mean he's happy having a lad hop on him.

It was a dumb mistake but it was sexual harassment. The police are not involved because Joel doesn't want them involved. Aaron was evicted because the producers deemed that sort of behaviour inappropriate and wanted to take a hard line stance on it. Joel was very clearly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing. Just because his discomfort manifested partially in laughter and he tried to play it down because he valued Aaron as a friend doesn't change it being sexual harassment.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

The problem is the producers not removing Aaron would be inadvertently saying that sort of behaviour is ok. Regardless of Joel being pompus and political he is a teenage virgin. Just because he is more mature in other ways doesn't mean he's happy having a lad hop on him.

It was a dumb mistake but it was sexual harassment. The police are not involved because Joel doesn't want them involved. Aaron was evicted because the producers deemed that sort of behaviour inappropriate and wanted to take a hard line stance on it. Joel was very clearly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing. Just because his discomfort manifested partially in laughter and he tried to play it down because he valued Aaron as a friend doesn't change it being sexual harassment.

If the bits in bold are true then why didn't big brother intervene at the beginning. Why did they let Joel be sexually harassed and assaulted?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Jay.

yes, even though he was quite entertaining, he had to be ejected.

You gif is in perfect time with the drum beat of the song I'm listening to right now so I started watching your gif for like a minute and a half.

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by Withano

You gif is in perfect time with the drum beat of the song I'm listening to right now so I started watching your gif for like a minute and a half.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Yes he should have been removed, I found extremely uncomfortable watching it & I'm no prode, what really got me was the other HM's reactions, you can tell Moel was really uncomfortable about the whole & not one HM's, tol Aaron to stop it.

[jennyjuniper]

No, but BB should have called Aaron into the diary room earlier, because when they DID call him in, it came home to him that maybe he had gone too far. He was okay when he went back into the bedroom, apologised to Joel and got into bed.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Yes he should have been removed, I found extremely uncomfortable watching it & I'm no prode, what really got me was the other HM's reactions, you can tell Moel was really uncomfortable about the whole & not one HM's, tol Aaron to stop it.

Nor did big brother. They could have stopped it 10 seconds in but didn't.

If Joel really looked as upset as people claim, all the way through it, then big brother must have seen that and deliberately ignored it.

[DemolitionRed]

Certain types of public nudity under UK law is deemed as "indecent exposure". This Act currently includes genital exposure with intent to shock a person/people and also includes "simulated sex/buggery" which is something Aaron did with Joel.
Such acts can carry penalty of up to two years imprisonment or a very hefty fine.

Every time something like this goes on in the house, the producers need time to talk to in house lawyers. It was likely legal advice that got Aaron evicted and not Joel reporting his disdain in the diary room.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

If the bits in bold are true then why didn't big brother intervene at the beginning. Why did they let Joel be sexually harassed and assaulted?

I don't know. I wasn't in the room with those making the decision. People here have had difficulty reading Joel's discomfort, perhaps they did too. I saw it clearly having been in a similar situation but others may not have had that "luxury".

[wendywillow]

I think it was dealt with badly by Joel. He continued to laugh thus encouraging Aaron. BB could have dealt with it better & of course HMs encouraging Aron did not help either a sad loss to the BB house

aaron was drunk as well. I really wish Joel had shut it down while it was happening but I guess its hard when everyone is laughing along. BB had to evict aaron tho, esp after joel said he was that uncomfortable.

[Vicky.]

@AARON_FREW @bbuk yeah same!! we should all get #GetAaronIn trending and #GetJoelOut

@AARON_FREW @bbuk that's how it should be! Joel is the reason Aaron is out along with Harriet for egging him on

@AARON_FREW @bbuk Joel reacted to him by hitting Aaron with a shoe though!! Joel needs to be out too for violence����

Aarons latest retweets...so yeah. No remorse, finding someone else to blame, and being the bitter egotistical twat I always thought he was. Shame on me for feeling a bit sorry for him and thinking the a squeaky apology just might be genuine...