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BB16 Big Brother 16 aka Big Brother: Timebomb started 12th May 2015, and was won by Chloe Wilburn. Discuss the housemates and show in this forum.
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But they put up with the celebrity thing cos it's still got the reality / BB element (or what's left of it) mixed in. But yeah, reality TV is now moving into celebrity/soap territory. Which could easily explain why "reality TV fans" are switching off from BB too. To be frank, thought it was a much better show tonight. And BOTS too. But even on BOTS, Cristian is unanimously selected as the one to go even though he made tonights HL show all by himself. Feels like they can't help themselves. |
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![]() The people who's job it is to know that have said time and again there is not enough interest to justify paying the money for it. That is all I need to know. Quote:
BBUK no longer does. Why bother paying money and going through all of the effort for it when it does nothing for them in return. It's a waste of resources. Quote:
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But at the end of the day, television is a business and if it's a waste of money they're not going to continue anything unless it's providing for them in return. The live feed no longer does that. Television is a business first and foremost and cuts will be made for things no longer working. Sad fact but true, especially on a channel like 5. Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 02:48 AM. |
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BB12 aired from early September to early November. It did so after 3 weeks of Celebrity Big Brother. So it is a bit of an anomaly. BB13 is the first real summer series. One thing that is interesting is that the CBB launched with 5.27 million viewers. That is absolutely enormous for Channel 5! Just imagine how many of those they could have kept had they stuck with the format it had on Channel 4. BB13 had a big launch night with 2.93 million on a Tuesday. That contributed greatly to a high first week figure. But it was going down by week 4, before the Olympics began. BB14 in contrast started with a comparatively low launch night figure, and had average ratings that went up in the second half (when there was extra live coverage) Quote:
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Big Brother 14 gets 1.9 Big Brother 15 gets 1.57 Big Brother 16 gets 1.3 So it's lost 600,000 viewers since the series with the extra live coverage. So it's lost about a third of its viewers in the space of two years. |
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Of course CBB's launch was huge, it's CBB.
CBB7 (the last on channel 4) drew in over 6 million for the launch, BB11 (the last on channel 4) drew in just over 5 million. |
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Or just that you think any decrease in figures will be so small or negligible as to not make any huge impact on current figures ? |
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Let's be generous and say every one of BB's audience is a hardcore fan and subtract that figure from the average CBB rating (to account for the hardcore fans switching off) and CBB STILL out-rates BB by more than double. That won't result in CBB failing and highlights just how small the civilian audience is. Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 02:56 AM. |
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Not in the short term no.
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Elaborate? Explain? Source? Add to the discussion?
![]() CBB can more than stand on its own two feet. It's the only one to get any media attention and was outperforming BB regularly even 5 years ago on channel 4. Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 03:01 AM. |
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They already have an enormous team. They would just need a few more to handle the legal side of it. It really is not that difficult to run as can be demonstrated by the fact that so many other countries have not just one feed but multiple feeds.
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I just think it feels like short-termism and if that's the problem with BB, then in the longer term maybe it might not work with CBB either. But then again maybe it's comparing apples and pears. Reality TV may not be a winner anymore. Celebrity BB ? All shows seem to need to remain interesting, relevant etc. Just think the advantage old BB have is the underlying reality format of the show. Take that out, I do wonder if chucking in new celebs is going to be the answer everytime. Like I said I really don't know and I'm guessing but CBB's appeal seems a bit of a mix and match between being reality TV and being a celebrity puller. If it can survive on celebrities alone then I guess it'll be fine. |
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Of course it "could" be done, ANYTHING "could" be done, but again channel 5 is a business. They're not going to want to please the few viewers who will watch a live feed despite losing money on it. Quote:
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I don't care where they decided to place the money, but from a business standpoint it's quite clearly better spent in a place where there is a substantial number of viewers (social media). They could do with spending even more in this department. Quote:
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We're a world away from when watching streaming from the house at any time on the internet was in anyway exciting or appealing to a general audience. No fancy website will change this. The "hardcore" fans don't make up such a significant number, hence their say being a small voice in a large crowd. That doesn't pay for the show to do half of what it did in its heyday. Popularity = Money BB has neither anymore. Quote:
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I'm not saying CBB is in a better state than BB. I personally feel the format is dead on the whole and reality TV as we've known it is being phased out (even American Idol is ending) but CBB is the one still with legs for this show. Whether those legs last another year, 2 years, 5 years or more is a different story. But the civilian shows legs were broken years ago and they're simply dragging its crippled carcass around the floor. IMO of course. ![]() It needs at least a rest to patch up. Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 03:32 AM. |
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A good website with the live coverage and a return to the old format, may boost its popularity by its current standards. If they don't do that, they will lose even more viewers, and therefore more money. |
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Ok.
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I'm pretty sure he's automated. He's being saying exactly the same thing for weeks. Maybe if whoever sticks money into his back to keep him talking gave some money to channel 5, then there'd be a live feed
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![]() Most popular on channel 5 = not very popular at all = no interest = no money Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 03:36 AM. |
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But I expect a show that was once a part of those popular channels and now retired to channel 5 to have a severely reduced budget and smaller viewers resulting in a very different show to the one it was before. Live feed being a part of that. So you can't expect the show to be in anyway similar to the one it was before when it comes to its interactivity. The things they CAN change however such as the basic nominations format and the twists are a much more solvable problem at the moment. Then maybe in the future other things can be addressed before they're spending money they haven't got. Last edited by Marsh.; 18-06-2015 at 03:41 AM. |
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And I don't accept that a live feed costs that much to run anyway. Last edited by Beetlejuice; 18-06-2015 at 03:45 AM. |
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They could scrap the whole of BOTS for starters.
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