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Originally Posted by Lostie!

So people are "pathetic" for holding a view that you happen not to?

To be quite honest, I'd love for a series where insults towards other forum members on the basis of their opinions isn't the norm. I won't hold my breath, though.



There are definitely some people who bring his weight into it, but that's certainly not the sole reason for the dislike of him. I can say that with absolute certainty because he's my least favourite and his weight has nothing to do with that.

I dislike him because his tendency to be miserable and moody pisses me off, as does his, frankly, nasty attitude that rears it's head when people dare to nominate him. Then there's his role in the unbearably smug Not-So Fantastic Four (and yes, the other members of that little gang annoy me too).

I just think he's a crap housemate and I get zero enjoyment out of him, and it's a fairly weak response to fall back on the "Oh, it's only because he's overweight" thing. No, it's not. You clearly think he's a good housemate, but that's just your opinion (as opposed to the "fact" you presented it as). Some others quite obviously feel differently and are entitled to do so without being branded "pathetic" or the suggestion that they're prejudiced against his weight.

I actually genuinely wasn't insulting any other forum members, I think the hate is receives is over the top, unjustified and ultimately, pathetic.

There may be some people who dislike him for the way he acts, and that is fine, what I'm addressing here is a collective shift (or rather actually, non shift) in attitudes towards him. The majority of people on this forum on launch night and in the first few days took a disliking towards him because it was assumed (and understandably so) that he would be the Mr Nice Guy that floated through to the final and didn't offer a lot to the show, and would be popular outside of these parts amongst the general public because of it. Then when it transpired that actually that wasn't to be the case, the same majority continued to hate on him. Therefore the poor kid can't win either way can he? Either he plays the nice guy we all assumed he would be and he'd be hated, or he acts normally as he is doing now and he's still hated. Quite frankly I think the only reason for that is for the most part because he is fat. Sure, not everyone will think that, but I think subconsciously that definitely plays a role or else why could he not win either way?

Originally Posted by sampvt

I hate him because you like him.

I was beginning to wonder whether this entire series would pass without us having made digs at one another, but alas it seems that's not what you want.

I'm glad I have that much of an impact on you