[MrWong]

I can't see much difference between Marc and Danny.

Both are arseholes.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by cookiemonster

he's clearly not homophobic. his best friend in the house was Simon fgs

True friend too,the point everyone is missing is that Marc is a wind up merchant, he did it from the minute he went into the house, saying things to get a reaction and stir them all up.

He does,I think, at times use terms that he doesn't mean,however he loves the reaction he gets so goes on with them.

People just seem to be falling for it all the time too, so whose fault is that.
I think he is great the way he goes about getting them all going, I'd likely hate to at times be on the receiving end but it is often hilarious to watch.

[MrWong]

Homophobic and racist language is banter now?

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Imo people are way too sensitive about these sort of words, someone using these words does not make them homophobic, the context in which they are used makes the person homophobic and the words offensive.

And I said the exact same thing in the thread about Danny as well, before anyone jumped on the 'you'd defend Marc even if he killed someone blah blah blah' bandwagon.

I agree with this.

[chuff me dizzy]

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

Yeah and calling someone a chinese squinty eyed fool isn't racist

[Griffin5779]

"i'm gay, i like boys" in my opinion he is not in the least homophobic if he makes that comment on national television.

marc is crude..and people might consider the word inappropriate but it used among friends all the time. like almost any word the context and intent is important judge what it means...sounds to me like he was using as a general insult which is part of his banter it doesn't sound to me like he meant it to a and derogatory attack on a persons sexuality.

if you want to say he uses inappropriate language .. fine ...if you want to say he is crude ...ok but saying he is homophobic is ridiculous.

i'm gay and not in least offended by the way

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

"i'm gay, i like boys" in my opinion he is not in the least homophobic if he makes that comment on national television.

marc is crude..and people might consider the word inappropriate but it used among friends all the time. like almost any word the context and intent is important judge what it means...sounds to me like he was using as a general insult which is part of his banter it doesn't sound to me like he meant it to a and derogatory attack on a persons sexuality.

if you want to say he uses inappropriate language .. fine ...if you want to say he is crude ...ok but saying he is homophobic is ridiculous.

i'm gay and not in least offended by the way

Perched for Marc saying, "I'm Chinese, I like asian's" so his racist language can be justified next.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by cookiemonster

he's clearly not homophobic. His best friend in the house was simon fgs

only so he could borrow his shirts

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry, I find this post really amusing with your username

Anyway, my response is the same as the Danny ones. It does not necessarily make one homophobic to use language such as this. It is technically homophobic language, but that doesn't mean the person using it is actually homophobic...

I shall hide now as I was in the wrong for saying it about Danny too

Agreed. I'd actually go a bit further and say that it's not even homophobic language. Before I get lynched, I'll explain what I mean! I don't think language can be homophobic, homophobia is a way of thinking, and the language used to express homophobia is entirely dependant on intent. Not simply the language itself out of context.
Simply using the word fa**ot, as much as some people might hate the word because of the connotations it has to them, does not make the person using it a homophobe. By saying it does, you're applying an entire mindset to a person, based on a single word they've said (or in this case typed) without understanding anything about that persons individual relationship with the word, or the people they were saying it to, or the context it was said in. ALL of these things have to be understood if you're going to label someone as a homophobe as actually being homophobic is a very serious thing, and a very different thing to being insensitive with the language you choose to use.

By all means take issue with his choice of language and let's debate whether it's an acceptable term (in my life, it is) but people shouldn't confuse their personal distaste for a word and how it makes them feel with someone else's intent in using it. At worst, it makes him insensitive, but homophobic? No.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

They are very nice to eat too. The Brain's ones that you buy from the freezer.


But, on a serious note, you must agree now that all such words are wrong and should never be spoken, even if they appear in commercially released songs. If you do not agree to this then I will stamp my feet and you will be banned!

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

[Beso]

you cant even say ****** on here without a banning

[Robertocarlo]

Marc is certainly not homophobic. Remember he was really pally and supportive of Simon. A lot of people use the word *f@ggot it's not a homophobic term and I am 100% Gay and not offended.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by parmnion

you cant even say ****** on here without a banning

It is filtered for a reason

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Marc is certainly not homophobic. Remember he was really pally and supportive of Simon. A lot of people use the word *f@ggot it's not a homophobic term and I am 100% Gay and not offended.

Speak for yourself. That term is really disgusting IMO to try and describe a gay person. If someone used it to describe me I'd be extremely offended.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It is filtered for a reason

yep, and that will be because it is a homophobic word.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yep, and that will be because it is a homophobic word.

Words can't be homophobic. Only people can.

I hate the word homophobia anyway. It implies fear.

[Northern Monkey]

I've seen posts on here using the word 'Dyke' in jest.Is that not homophobic too?Imo intent is key here.

[billy123]

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bobnot

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.

Top bantz
Probli Photoshop
Probli wasn't Marc
Danny would have done it too
Probli mates having banter
Probli a producer trying to fix it
So many bantz

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by bobnot

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.

"Banta"

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Top bantz
Probli Photoshop
Probli wasn't Marc
Danny would have done it too
Probli mates having banter
Probli a producer trying to fix it
So many bantz

Originally Posted by reece(:

"Banta"

I hate what this show has become. People willing throw morals in the bin in some desperate attempt to defend some disgusting moron that wont be remembered in 12 months.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I don't see anything homophobic in that tweet.

does the capitalised slur '******' not seem at least sligtly homophobic to you?

Originally Posted by cookiemonster

he's clearly not homophobic. his best friend in the house was Simon fgs

You can be racist and have black friends.. it's the same principle.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I hate what this show has become. People willing throw morals in the bin in some desperate attempt to defend some disgusting moron that wont be remembered in 12 months.

So grim, I won't be watching again. Marc and Helen would have never won on c4, the last million viewers are the ones who want to crown nastiness for the sake of some weird idea of what they call entertainment.

The civilian shows are dead.