[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by jet

If Marc had stirred **** up AND won friends and influenced people in the house and out of it he'd have walked away as the winner so problem. He wasn't socially smart enough to get the balance right. He showed a nicer side too rarely. Coming across as a grade A prick and a cocky sod 80% of the time isn't a very intelligent path to success. So academically smart, yes; socially smart, hell no!

This is laughable, for you to even suggest that he went out of his way to try and make friends but failed is a joke.

He said what he wanted to do and he did it. Anything beyond that is speculation and not worth me even trying to explain to you.

He even went out of his way to say that the notion of housemates genuinely entering the house to make friends was bull****. He made such a big deal out of it that he would have been called a hypocrite if he had done so himself.

[jet]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

This is laughable, for you to even suggest that he went out of his way to try and make friends but failed is a joke.

He said what he wanted to do and he did it. Anything beyond that is speculation and not worth me even trying to explain to you.

He even went out of his way to say that the notion of housemates genuinely entering the house to make friends was bull****. He made such a big deal out of it that he would have been called a hypocrite if he had done so himself.

Did you even read all of my post? I didn't suggest that he tried to make friends and failed. I said if he HAD tried to make friends and influence people favourably as well as **** stir he would have won. He got kicked out as soon as he was up, so he wasn't as smart as he made himself out to be, with all his going on about how educated he was. A degree doesn't win you BB, making a stir and being genuinely likeable at the same time does. He probably thought being nasty like Helen with few redeeming features was what the public wanted now, but unfortunately for him he didn't have a free pass to the final and the producers could only get him so far.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by jet

Did you even read all of my post? I didn't suggest that he tried to make friends and failed. I said if he HAD tried to make friends and influence people favourably as well as **** stir he would have won. He got kicked out as soon as he was up, so he wasn't as smart as he made himself out to be, with all his going on about how educated he was. A degree doesn't win you BB, making a stir and being genuinely likeable at the same time does. He probably thought being nasty like Helen with few redeeming features was what the public wanted now, but unfortunately for him he didn't have a free pass to the final and the producers could only get him so far.

This is an embarrassing debate, you didn't address any of my point and just decided to ramble on about what you think he should have done.

I should just let you argue by yourself at least that way you'll feel like you kinda won.

[jet]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

This is an embarrassing debate, you didn't address any of my point and just decided to ramble on about what you think he should have done.

I should just let you argue by yourself at least that way you'll feel like you kinda won.

You know I'm right so you just throw out an insult instead of admitting it. How embarrassing for you.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by jet

You know I'm right so you just throw out an insult instead of admitting it. How embarrassing for you.

I proved you were wrong, it's not me that needs to admit anything. If you want me to admit something make a valid point that has something to back it up.

Let me help you out, all you need to do is prove that Marc went into the house to make friends and be liked. Use facts and not just what your own game plan would have been.

Mate if you think that was an insult you're insulted far too easily. I simply told you that if you can't address the points made then personally it's a waste of my time to have a debate with you on the subject. I'm sure you've heard a lot worse.

[jet]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

I proved you were wrong, it's not me that needs to admit anything. If you want me to admit something make a valid point that has something to back it up.

Let me help you out, all you need to do is prove that Marc went into the house to make friends and be liked. Use facts and not just what your own game plan would have been.

Mate if you think that was an insult you're insulted far too easily. I simply told you that if you can't address the points made then personally it's a waste of my time to have a debate with you on the subject. I'm sure you've heard a lot worse.

*sigh* My goodness, you still haven't read my posts properly. I have already told you that he didn't go into the house to make friends and be liked but it would have been better for him if he had as well as stirring things up as it would have been a better balance and might have got him the win. I've put it in bold so you can't miss it this time.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by jet

*sigh* My goodness, you still haven't read my posts properly. I have already told you that he didn't go into the house to make friends and be liked but it would have been better for him if he had as well as stirring things up as it would have been a better balance and might have got him the win. I've put it in bold so you can't miss it this time.

*sigh* I did say

" Use facts and not just what your own game plan would have been. "

I didn't use bold, maybe I should have.