[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Joel had already seen Aaron's meat and two veg in their many baths together. Aaron's flashing was not out of the blue, there was days of a build up between them of playful flirting etc

It's all about context. If not then every husband and wife have 'sexually abused' each other by showing their genitals; every man in the public showers at swimming pools etc are all 'sexual abusers' simply by 'being naked'.

There's a HUGE difference between sexual abuse and nudity. It's all about INTENT and CONTEXT. Aaron's intent was playful and in natural context to their playful relationship, it happened within the safety of a bedroom full of laughing housemates mucking about on the famously raunchy and risque tv show 'big brother'

It belittles REAL sexual abuse to equate Aaron's silly bedroom antics to REAL sexual abusers which is extremely serious by contrast.

'Bye'

The way he did made him unconfortable (thats all matters when someone doesnt want something then you DONT do it) and he said time after time him to stop it and he didnt stop. That makes it abuse and level of the abuse doesnt stop making it an abuse.

Aaron is a grown ass man he should've known what he was doing.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by MelihV

The way he did made him unconfortable (thats all matters when someone doesnt want something then you DONT do it) and he said time after time him to stop it and he didnt stop. That makes it abuse and level of the abuse doesnt stop making it an abuse.

Aaron is a grown ass man he should've known what he was doing.

Sorry i thought you'd said bye?

Anyway. Aaron clearly thought he was behaving within the playful guidelines regarding flirting and sexual behaviour within the house. He had no bad intent - which is key.

His actions were a direct result of his relationship with Joel which included bathing together, flirty banter, discussing campness etc, and all manner of teasing between the two over a sustained period of time.

Plus BB encourages and seeks sexual flirtation between housemates regularly; it's part of the show in every series.

It's a shame that Aaron was ejected for pursuing that flirty banter to that degree, even if it was in the name of fun.

If only he had not shown his willy for a laugh and instead aggressively squared up to Joel, shouting 'YOU'RE A MUG!' in his face (as well as shouting SHUT UP! at other HMs) because then he would have stayed, been lauded as a hero and come third.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Sorry i thought you'd said bye?

Anyway. Aaron clearly thought he was behaving within the playful guidelines regarding flirting and sexual behaviour within the house. He had no bad intent - which is key.

His actions were a direct result of his relationship with Joel which included bathing together, flirty banter, discussing campness etc, and all manner of teasing between the two over a sustained period of time.

Plus BB encourages and seeks sexual flirtation between housemates regularly; it's part of the show in every series.

It's a shame that Aaron was ejected for pursuing that flirty banter to that degree, even if it was in the name of fun.

If only he had not shown his willy for a laugh and instead aggressively squared up to Joel, shouting 'YOU'RE A MUG!' in his face (as well as shouting SHUT UP! at other HMs) because then he would have stayed, been lauded as a hero and come third.

He was out of line, he was doing disgusting sexual movements behind his back and it is not an acceptable at all specially if it was making joel unconfortable which he did, if he wasnt unconfortable with it then he wouldnt be removed.

Just because some people flash themselves and make these stuff irl everyday and some people condone it doesnt make it acceptable or fine at all people really need to learn how to act and thats not a good way to act.

And Danny should've been removed for throwing stuff and threatening body language.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Plus BB encourages and seeks sexual flirtation between housemates regularly; it's part of the show in every series.

Another part of the show in every series is usually that it's consensual...

Originally Posted by Robodog

It's a shame that Aaron was ejected for pursuing that flirty banter to that degree, even if it was in the name of fun.

Using your genitalia to make someone else feel uncomfortable is absolutely grounds for ejection.

[REDCROP]

Using your genitalia to make someone else feel uncomfortable is absolutely grounds for ejection.[/QUOTE]

Yet Brian having to be restrained by 4 guys wasn't ? Or Chloe hurling missiles at another housemate ? Or Danny smashing up the kitchen and getting in someones face with threats of violence ? Aisleyne threatening to smash someones face in and threatening to set her family onto them ? Helen smashing her drink at the wall above where the others were sitting ?

Aaron had no intent of violence or threat...Aaron was being really stupid and misjudged the situation....but everyone, including Joel, knew he was joking.....the 6 people mentioned above were def not joking, they were all being violent...so if anyone supports their behaviour then they have no right to be calling Aaron out on his

Joel played a part in what happened that night by previously endorsing and encouraging Aarons behaviour....Aaron went too far but it was only an extension of how the two had been with each previously....

I'm a fan of Joel but i remember that Aaron was a very early favourite to win...knowing now, how well Joel put people in their place, i wonder why he didn't do it that night and if he was actually playing his clever games before we caught on to them later.

Either way i still think it was funny and that Aaron meant no harm at all....the fact that he wasn't charged by the police and was also invited to the final by BB means that he is not guilty of breaking any laws.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by REDCROP

Using your genitalia to make someone else feel uncomfortable is absolutely grounds for ejection.

Yet Brian having to be restrained by 4 guys wasn't ? Or Chloe hurling missiles at another housemate ? Or Danny smashing up the kitchen and getting in someones face with threats of violence ? Aisleyne threatening to smash someones face in and threatening to set her family onto them ? Helen smashing her drink at the wall above where the others were sitting ?

Aaron had no intent of violence or threat...Aaron was being really stupid and misjudged the situation....but everyone, including Joel, knew he was joking.....the 6 people mentioned above were def not joking, they were all being violent...so if anyone supports their behaviour then they have no right to be calling Aaron out on his

Joel played a part in what happened that night by previously endorsing and encouraging Aarons behaviour....Aaron went too far but it was only an extension of how the two had been with each previously....

I'm a fan of Joel but i remember that Aaron was a very early favourite to win...knowing now, how well Joel put people in their place, i wonder why he didn't do it that night and if he was actually playing his clever games before we caught on to them later.

Either way i still think it was funny and that Aaron meant no harm at all....the fact that he wasn't charged by the police and was also invited to the final by BB means that he is not guilty of breaking any laws.[/QUOTE]

I agree Joel saw Aaron as serious competition to his camp persona and manipulated the situation to his advantage, he had no remorse over playing a part in Aaron's removal either.