[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Kieron would be far from my favourite as up to last night he had done sod all cept be in the background for most of the time. However I felt for him. There are such double standards in here when it comes to George and Kieron. George burst into tears a few nights ago because he was feeling the pressure and Susannah was hugging him. Yet nobody called him a baby or seeking attention or anything (I did by the way). Kieron had what he deemed genuine reason to get upset last night and I agree with him. He felt ostracised because of his support of Lady C. I am glad he didn't go now because hopefully we will see him come out of his shell. George is excused being a bit of a bore and a sit arounder because he is 'cute'. Kieron isn't excused by some people for feeling left out and wanting to go home.

And by all account Kieron is probably genuinely a caring guy, didn't he donate all of his fee to charity?

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And by all account Kieron is probably genuinely a caring guy, didn't he donate all of his fee to charity?

But that can also mean he has so much money that his fee is pocket money to him.
Why make it public that you donate it to charity unless you want praise for it
Kieron is playing a game here. I really don't think he had any intention of leaving. Duncan had nothing to apologize to Kieron for.
Lady C is horrid yet get's supported for it. If that woman can make Yvette angry then she has clearly gone too far

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

But that can also mean he has so much money that his fee is pocket money to him.
Why make it public that you donate it to charity unless you want praise for it
Kieron is playing a game here. I really don't think he had any intention of leaving. Duncan had nothing to apologize to Kieron for.
Lady C is horrid yet get's supported for it. If that woman can make Yvette angry then she has clearly gone too far

People being vilified for donating to Charity mmhhmm

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People being vilified for donating to Charity mmhhmm

It's not that but he is probably minted anyway.
I just don't trust Kieron after last night.
If he really wanted to go he could have just gone quietly instead he went around to others announcing he was going in the hope they would say stay & it worked perfectly.
Kieron now get's treated more gently by the other campmates in case he cries again & Lady C get's away with her disgusting behaviour.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

It's not that but he is probably minted anyway.
I just don't trust Kieron after last night.
If he really wanted to go he could have just gone quietly instead he went around to others announcing he was going in the hope they would say stay & it worked perfectly.
Kieron now get's treated more gently by the other campmates in case he cries again & Lady C get's away with her disgusting behaviour.

[Mokka]

.. And sexist to boot. How dare a man show emotions, or cry on television.... How dare he show a softer side, we should lynch him for it.

I Genuinely think he was leaving, but I also think Chris gave him a long, way longer then the edit, talk and made some valid points that calmed him down and changed his perspective. I think the jungle is starting to take its toll on everyone. George and Brian cried already. You lot just don't like, back, or sympathize with what he was crying about, so you want to attack him for it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mokka

.... And sexist to boot. How dare a man show emotions, or cry on television.... How dare he show a softer side, we should lynch him for it.

I Genuinely think he was leaving, but I also think Chris gave him a long, way longer then the edit, talk and made some valid points that calmed him down and changed his perspective. I think the jungle is starting to take its toll on everyone. George and Brian cried already. You lot just don't like, back, or sympathize with what he was crying about, so you want to attack him for it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mokka

... And sexist to boot. How dare a man show emotions, or cry on television.... How dare he show a softer side, we should lynch him for it.

I Genuinely think he was leaving, but I also think Chris gave him a long, way longer then the edit, talk and made some valid points that calmed him down and changed his perspective. I think the jungle is starting to take its toll on everyone. George and Brian cried already. You lot just don't like, back, or sympathize with what he was crying about, so you want to attack him for it.

Why get personal ? I thought that was not awllowed,people have different views,you don't know him, neither do we, no one is right ,no one is wrong no need to call those who disagree "A bunch of nasty cynics"

[rusticgal]

60 plus years of age makes no difference. It's irrelevant of her age...she has made some very rude and personal remarks to people who have just simply voiced a difference to her opinion. She holds no bounds to her opinions but cannot accept those that go against her. Lady C only likes those who lick her arse...and Kieron is one of those.
Kieron needs to grow a backbone and stand up and be counted for. He has been an absolute bore.

[rusticgal]

....and I agree with Chuff...Vicky is playing the biggest game in there.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

It's not that but he is probably minted anyway.
I just don't trust Kieron after last night.
If he really wanted to go he could have just gone quietly instead he went around to others announcing he was going in the hope they would say stay & it worked perfectly.
Kieron now get's treated more gently by the other campmates in case he cries again & Lady C get's away with her disgusting behaviour.

Lady C hasn't gotten away with anything and Kieron was clearly just not wanting to be a part of ostracising her. Good on him I say, he went up in my estimations after last night tbh

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lady C hasn't gotten away with anything and Kieron was clearly just not wanting to be a part of ostracising her. Good on him I say, he went up in my estimations after last night tbh

He has never once called her out on her behaviour, that for me is bad.
If she said anything nasty to him he would probably be in floods of tears.
Lady C only has time for others that kiss her backside, Kieron does this perfectly.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

He has never once called her out on her behaviour, that for me is bad.
If she said anything nasty to him he would probably be in floods of tears.
Lady C only has time for others that kiss her backside, Kieron does this perfectly.

True,thats why she's firmly rammed up his,Chris,Vickys backsides as she know everyone else hates her and they are playing the biggest game by trying to be seen as the pensioner protectors

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

It's not that but he is probably minted anyway.
I just don't trust Kieron after last night.
If he really wanted to go he could have just gone quietly instead he went around to others announcing he was going in the hope they would say stay & it worked perfectly.
Kieron now get's treated more gently by the other campmates in case he cries again & Lady C get's away with her disgusting behaviour.

If he's a nice caring bloke we will see it,don't need to be told,lots of us give to charity quietly because we want to,I believe Duncan also donated his fee,to people like them ,it's small change ,so no big sacrifice.