[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I knew you wouldn't answer the question because that requires responsibility to be taken and I don't say that to cause offence, I say it because it is a classic response from those that are pacifist in nature and not willing to commit or take a stand.

There is nothing wrong with advocating no action at this point in itself, but each and every one of us either has a threshold of acceptability, or they are not acknowledging the issue exists or prepared to act at any point which would be the action of a pacifist.

Even now, people are expecting those in the security services to protect them from serious harm as they go about their daily activities. That's not the expectation of pacifists, they want to be protected. If the security services had not taken action, many hundreds more would have died in Paris. Would that have been acceptable? People have to take a stand at some point or die in the face of such threats, so I repeat my question, where is your threshold

I see you actually haven't read my post at all. Have you actually read any posts in this thread? It would make sense if you haven't given your 'traitor' accusations and such.

There's five countries, two of which are super powers, currently bombing Syria and it's only a matter of time before there's soldiers on the ground. Do you honestly believe that IS, with it's few thousand soldiers and outdated gear, could stand a chance against at least five different countries' armed forces? I thought you said you were an expert...

Your question is pointless, IS will not expand any further than they already have and you are only obsessing over it because you falsely believe it's some sort of trump card when it's pointless. Like how you forgot that the UK is a democracy (and displayed some very IS traits in doing so), you've forgotten that I was never against action when it came to IS, I just believed we were getting involved too early when our presence wouldn't achieve anything.

If you want to have a discussion, you really need to read people's posts.