[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The "everyone's entitled to an opinion" really is the last call of the defeated

Who is not entitled to an opinion then?

[GiRTh]

Of course we respect opinions we dont agree with. Then we rip them to pieces.

[Shaun]

No one ever says otherwise Cherie, it's just always banded about as a last resort when someone has nothing left to say or defend themselves or their beliefs.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The "everyone's entitled to an opinion" really is the last call of the defeated

What do you mean?

I´m really confused.

I don´t agree with it (his opinion), but like everyone he has a right to voice his opinion, however outrageous and wrong it is.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes, people are allowed opinions but we do not need to respect those opinions and nor should we if we disagree. I'll never respect someone who would want to deny a child a loving home because they disagree with the parents' sexuality.

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[Kazanne]

I am not saying we should respect them,but hell no one can say anything now without being bloody offended,it's ridiculous ,so he said stuff we don't like,that's his problem everyone should ignore it, no one says how they really feel anymre they are too scared to do that,the PC brigade are bleeding dangerous.

[Ninastar]

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am not saying we should respect them,but hell no one can say anything now without being bloody offended,it's ridiculous ,so he said stuff we don't like,that's his problem everyone should ignore it, no one says how they really feel anymre they are too scared to do that,the PC brigade are bleeding dangerous.

This forum..

Someone could write an essay on why slavery was wrong and even then you would all come out screaming "PC BRIGADE!! LOONY LEFT! YOU SHAG MARX"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nah I don't think we should 'respect' opinions such as what was aired tonight. But completely ostracizing someone and talking over them when they try to explain, thats crap.

100% correct

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Obviously going with what's going on tonight... Do you think it's right to boo and hate and argue with those who we don't agree with?

It really winds me up how awful everyone has been towards Winston. Yes he's pretty disgusting with his views, but do people really think that treating him they way they did would fix anything? Like surely, it's better to show people they are wrong, rather than try and make them feel **** for their opinions?

I honestly think that when you treat people like they are disgusting for having a different opinion to you, it doesn't solve anything... You can change peoples opinions by encouraging them and hoping for the best. If you try and force them, nothing will change.

Just my opinion... I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

I totally respect other opinions but what he said about gay people having a child is like child molestation it sickened me (and obviously many many others) to the absolute core. You live by the sword you die by the sword. You make a statement and when you have said it it has been said and there is no going back and he OBVIOUSLY wasn't retracting it. I have never seen such disgust ( and rightfully so) in Emmas face. That man has lost any support he had except of course vile little ninny Jeremy who obviously doesn't see much wrong in what Winston said. He kept trying to move the game on last night while the others were sitting there in shock.

Winston DESERVED everything he got last night and to be honest he didn't seen to give a TOSS

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

Sums up my feelings on it all

[Niamh.]

And equally people have the right to disagree with those opinions Caitlin

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I just think people are over reacting a little bit. Especially people who his opinions don't even affect. Like seriously, I want kids more than anything and its more than likely that I will have to adopt... But I know opinions like this exist and it doesn't bother me at all. Unless someone is threatening my life or wishing me death etc, then I just don't care. People are allowed to have a different opinion to me

I agree. It makes no sense to get so worked up over one persons unpopular opinion, it's irrelevant.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

This forum..

Someone could write an essay on why slavery was wrong and even then you would all come out screaming "PC BRIGADE!! LOONY LEFT! YOU SHAG MARX"

I rest my case,lol and stop shouting and who shagged Richard Marx ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And equally people have the right to disagree with those opinions Caitlin

But no one is trying to shut down your view

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I agree. It makes no sense to get so worked up over one persons unpopular opinion, it's irrelevant.

[Samm]

He's got a **** and outdated opinion so no, we shouldn't accept it!

[Pete.]

He would have been evicted over his attitude to women despite yesterday's task anyway

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

He's got a **** and outdated opinion so no, we shouldn't accept it!

It's not a question of accepting it, it's a question of letting him air it so it can be challenged and debated

[Shaun]

I suppose much of the apparent overreaction to one person's "unpopular belief" is the fear that it's secretly held by the majority: let's not pretend that gay rights are the most stable thing in the world right now. So whilst to us it's just "WINSTON IS WRONG!!! EVICT HIM!!!! SICKO!!!" there's basically an underlying worry that he and his party are canvassing the votes of like-minded people. Which they are. Weren't they the 3rd largest party in terms of votes across the country?

It may be an overreaction but it's a fair one - maybe 50 years down the line when gay adoption isn't still a "new thing" that could very quickly and promptly be written out of law by a party on the extreme right, we can all look back and laugh at the idea of adoption rights being at jeopardy. Right now we can't, really.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And equally people have the right to disagree with those opinions Caitlin

Obviously, lol. I'm not saying 'WE MUST UNDERSTAND HIS OPINIONS!!!11' I'm saying that you can't change someones opinion by publicly shaming them and telling them how wrong they are. You can disagree, of course, but doing what everyone is doing won't solve anything. I just don't understand why people are getting so worked up over it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Pete.

He would have been evicted over his attitude to women despite yesterday's task anyway

I wasn't offended I found his view amusing

[totaldynamic]

Of course we should accept his opinions. Whether you choose to label them as "wrong" is entirely of your own volition and not some holier than thou world view that everybody needs to accept.

The reaction of some of the housemates to Winston's comments was embarrassing to watch and I'd argue that that sort of ganging up and the sort of bitchy faces being pulled by John Partridge do more damage to the cause they purport to care so deeply about than they'd like to expect.

One of my best friends is gay and totally disagrees with gay couples being allowed to adopt children, as do many others, does that make him a backwards homophobe too? Of course it doesn't.

[Amy Jade]

While I would agree he is entitled to his opinion I have 0 respect for a person who thinks gay couples adopting is child abuse.

I'm also a bit perplexed by the 'well it doesn't concern you' about I guess straight people being annoyed or disgusted by his opinions - I find that stupid actually - I've never experienced animal abuse but I'd be fuming if somebody said it was funny

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I wasn't offended I found his view amusing

You weren't voting though