[Visage]

John was out of order by making the whole misunderstanding about Tiffany.


The problem comes when Angie & Tiffany chat, they usually end up misunderstanding each other which results in some kind of OTT reaction.

I don't think Angie was fully aware of what Tiffany was thinking/saying, I don't think Tiffany was fully aware of what Angie's was saying.

The way I saw it, Tiffany's reaction a little later was brought on by anger after feeling humiliated that Angie (who she thought was on a wind-up) had made out it was Gest who had died, she was annoyed with her and didn't stop to take in what actually happened, then we get shouting from others which wouldn't have helped Tiffany's thought process.

[Visage]

However you look at it, it was TV gold at its best.

[Kaitel]

Grieving? Don't give me that, it was her ex husband, she probably hated him and was more concerned about arguments in the house than the fact he had just died. I'm sure she'll milk it for attention though, if she was that upset she'd have left the house when she got the news. Not buying it sorry.

[GiRTh]

The three witches. They were the ones who overreacted. Angie and Tiffany made up with no problems other than those caused by those three.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Livia

Tiffany.

Angie was also wrong but I'm excusing her a little because she's as mad as a bucket of puppies.

The rest of them reacted to the situation as they saw it.

Didn't Tiffany react to a situation as she saw/heard it?

Whether you believe Tiffany was to blame or not, her reaction was brought on by the situation, just like the rest of the housemates.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But even when she knew , Tiffany said Angie said David Gest,which was a bare faced lie

I thought Tiffany genuinely believed that she heard Angie say David Gest, I don't believe at all it was a bare face lie.

[lostalex]

Visage is totally michelle visage . hi Michelle I love you and can't wait for the next season of the race.

[joeysteele]

Most of them ended up acting irrationally and had a bad episode at times through the whole event, however for me Tiffany just went totally and unnecessarily way over the top,I would have thought it time she was removed for her sanity,
She just would not listen to anyone.

She literally just went crazy and out of control,ridiculous.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Stormy

No one's fault...but John was totally out of line.

Angie could have squashed the situation early on by telling Tiff it was her ex-husband when she saw Tiff losing it, rather than run away into the diary room when she realized her mistake...but Angie was understandably upset and grieving so I would absolutely give her a pass. Not her fault.

Tiff could have squashed the situation by immediately apologizing to Angie for her mistake...but she was in a state of shock/fright thinking that David Guest was dead...and then angry when she thought that Angie played a cruel trick on her. Once she found out that someone did really die and it wasn't David Guest...she didn't have enough time to digest the info and calm down before the whole house turned on her. She didn't have one 'friend' to help her out. She was like a cornered rat and wasn't thinking straight. She reacted badly...but understandable... I would totally give her a pass.

John, however, was cold and calculated in his reaction, and totally out of line by...

1. Taking a complete misunderstanding by BOTH ladies and making it all Tiffany's fault.
2. Trying to stage a coup to get Tiffany out of the house.
3. Then selfishly telling her that everyone hates her and wants her out of the house. That must have hurt. After hearing that. it's no wonder that Tiff lashed out and refused to apologize to Angie.

Angie and Tiffany owe each other an apology and a hug while and John owes Tiffany one big apology. He should get down on his knees and kiss her feet for what he did to her. Inexcusable.

Well put Stormy....totally agree with everything you said there.