[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

On the news this morning.

We've all had this discussion before... and we all had the same opinions before.

fair enough but why have a child that you expect someone else to raise? What's the point?

We have had this discussion before but this situation is even more severe imo, this couple are alot older than others that have been posted about before (iirc)

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

fair enough but why have a child that you expect someone else to raise? What's the point?

We have had this discussion before but this situation is even more severe imo, this couple are alot older than others that have been posted about before (iirc)

Lots of young people have kids they abandon for someone else. With all the horrible things going on in the world, all the unwanted, abandoned children left to fend for themselves on the streets, trafficked into the sex industry, used as slaves in sweatshops, I don't find the idea of a child being brought into the world by two people who love him that difficult to take, whatever their age.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lots of young people have kids they abandon for someone else. With all the horrible things going on in the world, all the unwanted, abandoned children left to fend for themselves on the streets, trafficked into the sex industry, used as slaves in sweatshops, I don't find the idea of a child being brought into the world by two people who love him that difficult to take, whatever their age.

Sure they do but that's a whole other subject. The subject here is whether or not it's right for Doctors to give IVF treatment to a couple that are that old. I presume they wouldn't give a 15 year old IVF treatment

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure they do but that's a whole other subject. The subject here is whether or not it's right for Doctors to give IVF treatment to a couple that are that old. I presume they wouldn't give a 15 year old IVF treatment

I presume not. But isn't 70 the new 50?

If you've got enough cash you can probably find someone to do just about anything you want. Look at Michael Jackson - clearly had issues and yet was still treated by cosmetic surgeons. I'm not saying them having this child is right, just that isn't not as wrong as some things.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

I presume not. But isn't 70 the new 50?

If you've got enough cash you can probably find someone to do just about anything you want. Look at Michael Jackson - clearly had issues and yet was still treated by cosmetic surgeons. I'm not saying them having this child is right, just that isn't not as wrong as some things.

fair enough and yes absolutely agree about Michael Jackson/cosmetic surgery

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

fair enough and yes absolutely agree about Michael Jackson/cosmetic surgery

He was an adult and gave his consent, nobody is considering that the child will be a carer before his/ her teens

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was an adult and gave his consent, nobody is considering that the child will be a carer before his/ her teens

Yeah that's another point


But re Michael Jackson and his surgery, I was just agreeing that it's similar on an ethical level

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was an adult and gave his consent, nobody is considering that the child will be a carer before his/ her teens

Michael Jackson was an adult with money, as was the woman who's had the baby. Cash = virtually anything you want.