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Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time
There's two sad things about this Jack.

1. Innocent people who wanted an easy life will now pay the price for what the Leave campaigners have done (including myself) will be screwed over by this.

2. The older generations spited the younger generations who will have to live in this country for many more years to come, just because the older generations hate Immigration and Muslims.

But I agree with you on how nice it was to see so many people involved in this discussion.
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There's two sad things about this Jack.

1. Innocent people who wanted an easy life will now pay the price for what the Leave campaigners have done (including myself) will be screwed over by this.

2. The older generations spited the younger generations who will have to live in this country for many more years to come, just because the older generations hate Immigration and Muslims.

But I agree with you on how nice it was to see so many people involved in this discussion.
Mock, you don't know how any of the generations voted. As for immigration, for years no one's been allowed to have a dialogue about immigration because the Left all scream "racist". If we'd had that dialogue and immigration had been controlled, the result would have been different.

Your comments seem very passionate. Shame you weren't passionate enough to vote.
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Mock, you don't know how any of the generations voted. As for immigration, for years no one's been allowed to have a dialogue about immigration because the Left all scream "racist". If we'd had that dialogue and immigration had been controlled, the result would have been different.

Your comments seem very passionate. Shame you weren't passionate enough to vote.
There's been research into how all of the generations voted, and the younger people who have got to live in this country for many more years to come have got screwed over for older people's prejudices.

And I'm not saying that people should scream racist when people show concern about Immigration, it's when it becomes the sole reason for people to want to pull out of the EU is when it starts to look dodgy and really silly.

And I wish I had've voted tbh, I got really cocky and thought that the UK/England would've been smart enough not to **** ourselves over, I guess this country is thick like my parents.
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There's been research into how all of the generations voted, and the younger people who have got to live in this country for many more years to come have got screwed over for older people's prejudices.

And I'm not saying that people should scream racist when people show concern about Immigration, it's when it becomes the sole reason for people to want to pull out of the EU is when it starts to look dodgy and really silly.

And I wish I had've voted tbh, I got really cocky and thought that the UK/England would've been smart enough not to **** ourselves over, I guess this country is thick like my parents.
Show me this research.

You think the whole country is thick because it doesn't agree with you.

And you've just insulted your parents because they didn't agree with you. Nice.

And alllllllll this after you didn't vote.
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Show me this research.

You think the whole country is thick because it doesn't agree with you.

And you've just insulted your parents because they didn't agree with you. Nice.

And alllllllll this after you didn't vote.
It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
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It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
Why would you trust your fellow countrymen to vote properly? They all voted with their own opinions and reasons. If you don't use the vote you have, it is very difficult for you to have a voice as you didn't exercise your democratic right and others did. Also, there was not a 100% turnout so many others "trusted" their fellow countrymen too. If only a small percentage more voted the outcome could have been very different.
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It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
It matters that you didn't vote because now when you call out others for not voting you look like a chuffing hypocrite.

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It matters that you didn't vote because now when you call out others for not voting you look like a chuffing hypocrite.
I haven't called out people for not voting?

I think you need to reread the post again as I said that I wish that more of us Remain voters (including myself) had've voted as we would've seen a different result.

How's that making me a hypocrite?
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It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
It matters that you didn't vote because you shouldn't be trusting others to do things for you, you should be trusting yourself and your democratic right to vote.
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It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
Firstly, don't quote research that you can't back up or I'm going to assume you've made it up. Secondly, OF COURSE it matters that you didn't vote. You're making a huge fuss because people didn't vote how you wanted them to vote while saying you, yourself, was too busy. I was busy... everyone's busy. And no, I don't believe your one vote would have mattered much, but as you didn't vote at all, it kind of negates your right to have a view.
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Firstly, don't quote research that you can't back up or I'm going to assume you've made it up. Secondly, OF COURSE it matters that you didn't vote. You're making a huge fuss because people didn't vote how you wanted them to vote while saying you, yourself, was too busy. I was busy... everyone's busy. And no, I don't believe your one vote would have mattered much, but as you didn't vote at all, it kind of negates your right to have a view.
No it doesn't.

And my kind of busy is a bit different to most people's which has made it hard for me to probably be able to ever vote on anything in Politics after this result.
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The Economy being important is a redundant post to you?

And you wonder why I have a low opinion of the Leave campaigning when all I catch is silly posts/tweets like this.
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It was on all of the News stations, Newspapers, and Internet Articles, if you haven't seen them then that's not my problem.

And tbh yes I think the country is thick for putting Immigration before the Economy of it's own country yes, if that makes me wrong then I'm glad to be wrong.

And my parents is a different matter to this, they're thick for different reasons.

And why does it matter if I didn't vote? I should trust my fellow countrymen to vote properly shouldn't I? Or are you saying that I can overturn a million vote gap of people voting with their heart instead of their head? If so I'm impressed that you think that much of me that I can overturn such a result.
Even David Cameron said before the referendum campaign that Britain would manage fine out of the EU.He only changed his mind when campaigning began just like with his Turkey u-turn.Will we be better off economically in the long run?Only time will tell but we are'nt going to sink.
These so called 'experts' have a track record for either getting things wrong or missing them completely.Not to mention some are EU funded.Project fear from remain about doomsday and WW3 did'nt wash with the intellegent people of this country who saw right through it.

As for why does it matter if you did'nt vote?Are you being serious?It's people with that attitude that lost this referendum for the remain side.If you and the many more people like you had used your democratic right to vote then we may still be an EU member now.You can't rely on anyone to use your vote.Only you and all the other non voters can use it.
To complain about the result after truly deserves this
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Even David Cameron said before the referendum campaign that Britain would manage fine out of the EU.He only changed his mind when campaigning began just like with his Turkey u-turn.Will we be better off economically in the long run?Only time will tell but we are'nt going to sink.
These so called 'experts' have a track record for either getting things wrong or missing them completely.Not to mention some are EU funded.Project fear from remain about doomsday and WW3 did'nt wash with the intellegent people of this country who saw right through it.

As for why does it matter if you did'nt vote?Are you being serious?It's people with that attitude that lost this referendum for the remain side.If you and the many more people like you had used your democratic right to vote then we may still be an EU member now.You can't rely on anyone to use your vote.Only you and all the other non voters can use it.
To complain about the result after truly deserves this
To vote to Leave when thinking that it's gonna end Immigration, and break us away from the European Court of Law deserves this.facepalm:: laugh3:
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