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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

But you are a 'glass half empty' type of guy T.S. - even when it is a FULL 2 PINT STEIN in front of you.

There exists such strategies as 'Preemptive Strikes' and 'Detterent' - all good stuff.

It is total B.S. that the 'EU' has 'kept the peace' in Europe since WW2' - it is the hoorors which befell two little cities in Japan which have thus far prevented WW3, and they are called Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

No one who believes that we need nuclear weapons could be described as a "glass half full" person I'm afraid Kirk, it is the ultimate "last desperate contingency" of someone who believes that the world will soon collapse.

Deterrent = m.a.d, exactly what I'm talking about. It is only a deterrent to other fully-armed states. If we are ever in a military conflict that would require us to use such a deterrent it is already over. It is NOT a deterrent of any kind to groups like ISIS. As I said... Sledgehammer vs Bees. War is no longer between entrenched nation states, it is fluid guerilla style global organisations. You cannot nuke them. Your Sledgehammer becomes a rubber chicken. If we ever slide BACK to a world in which technologically advanced states are at each others throats and nukes become a realistic deterrent.. We are already completely ****ed.

If we were ever to launch a Trident nuclear weapon first in a preemptive strike, we are already ****ed. A pre-emptive strike against who??

Useless.