[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't see the issue to be honest, vote to save the one with the most votes is safe

They never said the one with the most votes would be the only one safe or the two with the most votes would be the only ones safe.

The 2 previous evictions the person with the fewest votes has been evicted. Unless they specifically stated otherwise why should voters think it is any different this time?

If you are going to do what they are doing then you need to inform voters BEFORE the lines open. That is what they do on I'm A Celebrity. If you're voting for a challenge you are told BEFORE the lines open that the top 2 will do it.

Or if you're voting for people to stay in and there will a challenge between the bottom 2, they tell you BEFORE the lines open.

If they did not do this, they would get themselves in trouble. As the code states...

2.14 Broadcasters must ensure that viewers and listeners are not materially misled about any broadcast competition or voting.

It is legitimate for voters to feel they have been misled here. How could they be anything other than misled when they don't tell us what we're actually voting for until hours after the lines have opened?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They never said the one with the most votes would be the only one safe or the two with the most votes would be the only ones safe.

The 2 previous evictions the person with the fewest votes has been evicted. Unless they specifically stated otherwise why should voters think it is any different this time?

If you are going to do what they are doing then you need to inform voters BEFORE the lines open. That is what they do on I'm A Celebrity. If you're voting for a challenge you are told BEFORE the lines open that the top 2 will do it.

Or if you're voting for people to stay in and there will a challenge between the bottom 2, they tell you BEFORE the lines open.

If they did not do this, they would get themselves in trouble. As the code states...

2.14 Broadcasters must ensure that viewers and listeners are not materially misled about any broadcast competition or voting.

It is legitimate for voters to feel they have been misled here. How could they be anything other than misled when they don't tell us what we're actually voting for until hours after the lines have opened?

It's no different to freezing the vote and saving the top 2, the person who was bottom could get a rush of votes from fans of the top 2 who want the other one out thereby changing the result, I don't vote anyway so I couldn't care either way

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's no different to freezing the vote and saving the top 2 the person who was bottom could get a rush of votes from fans of the top 2 who want the other one out thereby changing the result, I don't vote anyway so I couldn't care either way

It clearly is different. Because they can stop and start a vote when they want. They cannot mislead viewers on what it is they are voting for which is what they have done here. And there is no denying that that is what they have done. How could viewers be anything but misled when they opened lines last night but have only now at 5 pm confirmed that the bottom 2 will be in danger, rather than the person with the fewest votes evicted (as has been the case for the previous 2 evictions)

Until then almost everyone voting believed that the person with the fewest votes was going. You can freeze votes and save two, but if you have led people to believe whoever has the fewest at the time of the announcement will be the evictee then you have misled voters.

There are people gambling on these events. Chloe had become an odds on favourite to go. Now all of a sudden she could be a bottom 2 and survive despite having the fewest votes by a huge margin. They've misled voters, they've misled gamblers. They're taking people's money here.

As I pointed out, you would not ever see anything like this on I'm A Celebrity. If the two with the fewest votes have to compete to stay in then that channel will make sure they have informed the voters of that before the lines opened, which is what Channel 5/BB should have done. But because they're amateurs they have misled voters and cost people money.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It clearly is different. Because they can stop and start a vote when they want. They cannot mislead viewers on what it is they are voting for which is what they have done here. And there is no denying that that is what they have done. How could viewers be anything but misled when they opened lines last night but have only now at 5 pm confirmed that the bottom 2 will be in danger, rather than the person with the fewest votes evicted (as has been the case for the previous 2 evictions)

Until then almost everyone voting believed that the person with the fewest votes was going. You can freeze votes and save two, but if you have led people to believe whoever has the fewest at the time of the announcement will be the evictee then you have misled voters.

There are people gambling on these events. Chloe had become an odds on favourite to go. Now all of a sudden she could be a bottom 2 and survive despite having the fewest votes by a huge margin. They've misled voters, they've misled gamblers. They're taking people's money here.

As I pointed out, you would not ever see anything like this on I'm A Celebrity. If the two with the fewest votes have to compete to stay in then that channel will make sure they have informed the voters of that before the lines opened, which is what Channel 5/BB should have done. But because they're amateurs they have misled voters and cost people money.

Actually, your point about the way this could affect people who have had a bet on this result, is an important one. People could have put large amounts of money on who will be evicted, and lose their cash when they shouldn't have. That does make it an even bigger issue.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Actually, your point about the way this could affect people who have had a bet on this result, is an important one. People could have put large amounts of money on who will be evicted, and lose their cash when they shouldn't have. That does make it an even bigger issue.

That's why it called gambling, no certainty

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's why it called gambling, no certainty

Most likely thing that will happen with some bookies is that the bets cast will be made null and void. If the rules of a market change, this often happens.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It clearly is different. Because they can stop and start a vote when they want. They cannot mislead viewers on what it is they are voting for which is what they have done here. And there is no denying that that is what they have done. How could viewers be anything but misled when they opened lines last night but have only now at 5 pm confirmed that the bottom 2 will be in danger, rather than the person with the fewest votes evicted (as has been the case for the previous 2 evictions)

Until then almost everyone voting believed that the person with the fewest votes was going. You can freeze votes and save two, but if you have led people to believe whoever has the fewest at the time of the announcement will be the evictee then you have misled voters.

There are people gambling on these events. Chloe had become an odds on favourite to go. Now all of a sudden she could be a bottom 2 and survive despite having the fewest votes by a huge margin. They've misled voters, they've misled gamblers. They're taking people's money here.

As I pointed out, you would not ever see anything like this on I'm A Celebrity. If the two with the fewest votes have to compete to stay in then that channel will make sure they have informed the voters of that before the lines opened, which is what Channel 5/BB should have done. But because they're amateurs they have misled voters and cost people money.

Sorry Yaki, I can't get worked up for this