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Old 25-09-2016, 11:04 AM #1
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You cannot fix poorly educated people looking at videos and thinking that it is judge jury and executioner

The problem is not the police, its the masses and their new access to social media
..that doesn't matter though because it's not the public who are the ones who decide in a court of law and the courts do decide some wrongful killing that have been committed by police officers...so it's right also that each killing is questioned because otherwise, essentially what you would be saying is that we must accept some wrongful deaths because not all are wrongful...so some lives don't matter then because they just have to be 'absorbed' into a system and not questioned or prosecuted if found guilty....
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..that doesn't matter though because it's not the public who are the ones who decide in a court of law and the courts do decide some wrongful killing that have been committed by police officers...so it's right also that each killing is questioned because otherwise, essentially what you would be saying is that we must accept some wrongful deaths because not all are wrongful...so some lives don't matter then because they just have to be 'absorbed' into a system and not questioned or prosecuted if found guilty....
No, all deaths are fully investigated independent as they are in the UK. The public do not need to get involved
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No, all deaths are fully investigated independent as they are in the UK. The public do not need to get involved
The Police department are there to protect and serve the public, of course they have a right to get involved if they believe that there is an issue. The USA isn't a dictatorship last time I checked
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The Police department are there to protect and serve the public, of course they have a right to get involved if they believe that there is an issue. The USA isn't a dictatorship last time I checked
Correct and they have plenty of legal way to do this

Killing police, looting, ranting and raving on streets and on social media
That is not the way


As the OP said, if the idiots who represent BLM would actually get involved in their local politics and community they could do a lot
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Correct and they have plenty of legal way to do this

Killing police, looting, ranting and raving on streets and on social media
That is not the way


As the OP said, if the idiots who represent BLM would actually get involved in their local politics and community they could do a lot
They do and they have.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...r_primary.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b065e2e3d7cd65

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...k-lives-matter
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A) The most draconian gun laws ever, will NOT keep weapons out of the hands of those who want to possess them.

Criminals and terrorists in ANY country do NOT obey laws and can access weapons whenever they wish to, and no amount of 'Gun Laws' can EVER prevent 'rogue' cops from possessing weapons in any country where it is the lawful practice to have armed police.

B) No amount of 'Improved Training' will prevent the types of 'Murder By Cops' in question, because in such cases, it is not a lack of training which causes the cop to kill, it is a wilful, deliberate DESIRE to kill - a desire enabled by the very fact that the perpetrator is a cop - coupled with the oh so reassuring knowledge, that being a cop also LARGELY affords protection against legal recrimination for carrying out the murder.

Basically; Laws, which were formed to keep the unlawful lawful, only really affect the law abiding anyway, because the unlawful really don't give a feck.
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