[Denver]

They are both tramps

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I've commented on this above.

Everybody's capable but not everyone is a nasty bitch more often than they're nice.

"It's like saying"

I love how this is not setting up a comparison

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Except everybody can get carried away when they argue, not everyone is going to kill someone.

But it's not just arguing is it?

Sat down and bitching/talking she can be completely vile.

If it was just going off on one in the heat of the argument that would be one thing but even when sat calm and collected in the middle of the day, no alcohol, no argument she can be a nasty bitch and a bully.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And that's your opinion, of which you're fully entitled to, one which I'm not going to say is factually incorrect just because I disagree with it, I'd like the same courtesy to be extended to myself, tah.

[LukeB]

I do wish Nicola didn't say anything because Coleen is a pussy but Coleen is too much of a coward to say anything so it really didn't make a difference.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

"It's like saying"

I love how this is not setting up a comparison

A comparison about labelling people.

But you always tend to make discussions about something other than what they are. I'll just reply to Liam who's capable of staying on topic rather straw man arguments when you've got nothing to back up what you're saying.

[Denver]

Let not forget how she ran out the bedroom and flung herself into Jedwards face when they was doing something that didnt concern her

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A comparison about labelling people.

But you always tend to make discussions about something other than what they are. I'll just reply to Liam who's capable of staying on topic rather straw man arguments when you've got nothing to back up what you're saying.

Wow you really don't like getting called out for your factually incorrect posts

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And that's your opinion, of which you're fully entitled to, one which I'm not going to say is factually incorrect just because I disagree with it, I'd like the same courtesy to be extended to myself, tah.

Although you have said things like Kim and Jedward fans are falling for a victim routine which is just as good as. There's been a lot of belittling others' opinions on both sides.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Although you have said things like Kim and Jedward fans are falling for a victim routine which is just as good as. There's been a lot of belittling others' opinions on both sides.

Yes, because that's my opinion and it's nothing like telling me my opinion is 'factually incorrect', if you want to support them and say they're lovely people then crack on, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, I'll just say I disagree and that they want people to see them as the victims, that's not belittling, that just me stating an opinion.

Telling me I'm 'factually incorrect' is just completely dismissing my opinion whatsoever, something that I don't take very kindly to, which I doubt anyone would.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yes, because that's my opinion and it's nothing like telling me my opinion is 'factually incorrect', if you want to support them and say they're lovely people then crack on, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, I'll just say I disagree and that they want people to see them as the victims, that's not belittling, that just me stating an opinion.

Telling me I'm 'factually incorrect' is just completely dismissing my opinion whatsoever, something that I don't take very kindly to, which I doubt anyone would.

It's not my fault you're wrong.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yes, because that's my opinion and it's nothing like telling me my opinion is 'factually incorrect', if you want to support them and say they're lovely people then crack on, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, I'll just say I disagree and that they want people to see them as the victims, that's not belittling, that just me stating an opinion.

Telling me I'm 'factually incorrect' is just completely dismissing my opinion whatsoever, something that I don't take very kindly to, which I doubt anyone would.

In what universe is saying that fans of particular housemates are "falling for a victim routine" anything other than dismissing their opinion and saying that they're wrong in how they're perceiving what's happening? That's exactly what it is.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

In what universe is saying that fans of particular housemates are "falling for a victim routine" anything other than dismissing their opinion and saying that they're wrong in how they're perceiving what's happening? That's exactly what it is.

But am I telling you that you're wrong? no, if I think that a large section of their fans have fallen for an act, that's not belittling, people can like housemates for whatever reason they want to, if they want to support them because they think they're being picked on then good for them, just because I think some people are supporting housemates for the wrong reasons, doesn't equate to me thinking they're wrong for supporting them, I respect everyone's opinions equally, whether I agree with them or not, all I'd like is for people to show the same decency for me and my opinion, is that wrong?

[Ant.]

Yeah none of my business but good on LukeB, Cal and Liam- for maintaining respect in an argument that's clearly getting heated

[Marsh.]

LukeB's a sick sick bitch though?

[Denver]

tbh

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

LukeB's a sick sick bitch though?

excuse u don't you have to be somewhere aka not on this website?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

tbh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

excuse u don't you have to be somewhere aka not on this website?

Pardon?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

excuse u don't you have to be somewhere aka not on this website?

clock ha

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

clock ha

I think this is the longest Marsh has been without getting banned, it's all gone to their head tbh xxx

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

I think this is the longest Marsh has been without getting banned, it's all gone to their head tbh xxx

I think it's time he gets another one xxx

[Marsh.]

Oh you pair of gang handed chinless wonders.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

But am I telling you that you're wrong? no, if I think that a large section of their fans have fallen for an act, that's not belittling, people can like housemates for whatever reason they want to, if they want to support them because they think they're being picked on then good for them, just because I think some people are supporting housemates for the wrong reasons, doesn't equate to me thinking they're wrong for supporting them, I respect everyone's opinions equally, whether I agree with them or not, all I'd like is for people to show the same decency for me and my opinion, is that wrong?

Well as one of the people it was presumably aimed at, I can tell you it was indeed belittling. If you can't see how that was insulting at all then I suppose we'll never reach a common ground on this issue.

Of course you're not wrong for wanting your opinion to be respected and accepted as perfectly valid, I just don't think you've been faultless in that regard either.

[Marsh.]

I've never been banned for any on season related reasons, it was always chat thread stuff.

Josy likes me clocking the on season discussions with my superior opinions.