[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I have actually been to the Priory, went there for 2 years in fact. Met quite a few famous people. Tru factoid.

Some of us on here have lived in big bad world and speak from experience.
The older you get the harder you get, people come to this country to make better life for them selves but there are a few that think we should take care of their addiction, its young fit men that are on the streets and why do you think their own family are not helping them!

They won't help them selves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

we are in the presence of celebrity.


Just before Christmas there was a guy begging outside Lidl, he was dressed nicely and had a backpack, I didn't give him anything on they way in, but felt a bit bad so on the way out I asked if he would like a sandwich and a drink so he said okay but then got very picky about the type of sandwich he wanted..no cheese...and no apple juice

a few weeks later there was another guy offering to take back the trolley and keep the pound, I sat and watched he must have made 20.00 in 10 minutes

I bought one of these £1 trolleys the other day, took a fair bit to get it in the back of the car but I am pretty pleased with it as a planter stand in my garden. Well done Aldi

If anyone wants one ALdi have tons for a quid just at the side of most of their stores

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I bought one of these £1 trolleys the other day, took a fair bit to get it in the back of the car but I am pretty pleased with it as a planter stand in my garden. Well done Aldi

If anyone wants one ALdi have tons for a quid just at the side of most of their stores

have you moved to a sink estate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

have you moved to a sink estate

I do have horses out bin the back field but not in my front room

[user104658]

Some people begging are genuine, some aren't. If you can't tell the difference then I can only assume you're pretty gullible in general, because these are not skilled actors and whether or not they're sincere is easy to spot.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Some people begging are genuine, some aren't. If you can't tell the difference then I can only assume you're pretty gullible in general, because these are not skilled actors and whether or not they're sincere is easy to spot.

Oh do tell your top ten guide to spotting a "genuine" begger, not sure if you think saying I was gullible, they guy I bought a sandwich for I have seen before when he asked me for a bus fare, that like the biggest scam there is, it was near Christmas so I just felt like buying him a sandwich, I just found it funny that he then got choosy about what he would eat. Just because someone is sitting in a doorway with a cardboard sign isn't an indicator of "genuine", there was a case of a guy posing as ex army recently who fooled a lot of people, so its not that simple, but I await your fool proof spotting techniques.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh do tell your top ten guide to spotting a "genuine" begger, not sure if you think saying I was gullible, they guy I bought a sandwich for I have seen before when he asked me for a bus fare, that like the biggest scam there is, it was near Christmas so I just felt like buying him a sandwich, I just found it funny that he then got choosy about what he would eat. Just because someone is sitting in a doorway with a cardboard sign isn't an indicator of "genuine", there was a case of a guy posing as ex army recently who fooled a lot of people, so its not that simple, but I await your fool proof spotting techniques.

Body language, tone of voice? Is their level of supposed desperation realistic for what they are saying? Spotting a scammer is a basic life skill that everyone should surely develop. I'm not saying it's foolproof but surely 94.69% of the time someone who is "at it" is easy to spot, as is someone who is in genuine need of help.

Then again maybe I don't give myself enough credit and it's not as easy as it seems. I do see a lot of people falling for "pickup artists", dodgy "hard sell" salesmen etc. and seeming genuinely shocked when it doesn't turn out brilliantly.

[Livia]

TS and his Super Skills. I'm surprised you're not teaching seminars to the security services.

Let's say half the people on the street are genuine, just for the sake of argument. You don't end that problem by allowing more and more people into the country while we scrabble around to build houses on the outskirts of every town and village.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I doubt anyone on here as found there self in a drug rehab waiting room full of junkies talking openly how they bring friends urine with them to use when they get tested to see if they are drug free so they can stay on a methadone program.

I thought this was half about me then.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Body language, tone of voice? Is their level of supposed desperation realistic for what they are saying? Spotting a scammer is a basic life skill that everyone should surely develop. I'm not saying it's foolproof but surely 94.69% of the time someone who is "at it" is easy to spot, as is someone who is in genuine need of help.

Then again maybe I don't give myself enough credit and it's not as easy as it seems. I do see a lot of people falling for "pickup artists", dodgy "hard sell" salesmen etc. and seeming genuinely shocked when it doesn't turn out brilliantly.

So for instance if you are being forced to beg you will have a level of desperation and the persons body language will reflect this, are they genuine?

[T*]

I think this should be moved to SN&D.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by T*

I think this should be moved to SN&D.

Unless we can find an immigration angle I think keep it here?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh do tell your top ten guide to spotting a "genuine" begger, not sure if you think saying I was gullible, they guy I bought a sandwich for I have seen before when he asked me for a bus fare, that like the biggest scam there is, it was near Christmas so I just felt like buying him a sandwich, I just found it funny that he then got choosy about what he would eat. Just because someone is sitting in a doorway with a cardboard sign isn't an indicator of "genuine", there was a case of a guy posing as ex army recently who fooled a lot of people, so its not that simple, but I await your fool proof spotting techniques.

I understand where you are coming from here, but being homeless doesn't make you like certain foods and stuff? I do kinda get the opinion that they should be happy for anything, but at the same time I think if I was on the streets and someone offered to buy me a sandwich I would probably be all 'no mustard, no mayo please' etc as I actually am sick if I eat some stuff

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I understand where you are coming from here, but being homeless doesn't make you like certain foods and stuff? I do kinda get the opinion that they should be happy for anything, but at the same time I think if I was on the streets and someone offered to buy me a sandwich I would probably be all 'no mustard, no mayo please' etc as I actually am sick if I eat some stuff

This is why we invented

"beggers cant be choosers"

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

This is why we invented

"beggers cant be choosers"

Maybe. But if I was on the bones of my arse and someone bought me a cheese sandwich...it wouldn't help. As if I ate it, I would be less hungry for a few hours but then that would be followed by 3 days of migraines. So 3 days of feeling like I want to die AND being on the bones of my arse for the sake of a sandwich when I could have just said...thanks but no cheese please

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Just been to reading town centre and I'm not kidding its was full of beggars and homeless in every nook and granny, there was so many they where walking up to people and begging.

Something needs to be done, most of these people are begging for drug or drink money.

This filth needs to be cleared.

Yes the problem is many of them
live in homes, they are scams
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=294081

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I understand where you are coming from here, but being homeless doesn't make you like certain foods and stuff? I do kinda get the opinion that they should be happy for anything, but at the same time I think if I was on the streets and someone offered to buy me a sandwich I would probably be all 'no mustard, no mayo please' etc as I actually am sick if I eat some stuff

yeah fair enough, but then he got picky about what he wanted to drink as well, I could understand maybe he couldn't eat dairy but don't give me a shopping list

[Josy]

In one of the towns near here they stand outside farm foods asking everyone that goes in or out for a quid then they meet up with the others at the end of the day and club together everything they've begged

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Some of us on here have lived in big bad world and speak from experience.
The older you get the harder you get, people come to this country to make better life for them selves but there are a few that think we should take care of their addiction, its young fit men that are on the streets and why do you think their own family are not helping them!

They won't help them selves.

To think its only fit young men on the streets proves your ignorance on the subject.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by parmnion

To think its only fit young men on the streets proves your ignorance on the subject.

Its not only young men on the streets but 90 percent in the town centre on Thursday were young men I saw only two women in door ways, so don't use the word ingnorance when talking about me.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Its not only young men on the streets but 90 percent in the town centre on Thursday were young men I saw only two women in door ways, so don't use the word ingnorance when talking about me.

did you actually count them and do the maths?

Or not, maybe your just being ignorant as **** towards the actual homeless and needy.