[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'm not sure but I don't Ben's mother wasn't present at the time he disappeared - wasn't he at his grandparents?

Oh yeah, ok his grand parents were never accused then. Look I know it's an awful thing to think that parents were involved in some way, as a parent myself I know it's a terrible thing to think but when you do actually read up on the case and I mean the actual Police files which are publicly available, the only actual evidence found points to Madeleine having died in that apartment and from the minute that evidence was found the McCanns tried discredit it and why would they if they had no idea what happened to her? Like if they really were completely clueless and evidence that she may have died in the apartment came up wouldn't they want to investigate that?, also their Police Statements and their friends statements are very inconsistent too. It's about justice for a 3 year old little girl

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh yeah, ok his grand parents were never accused then. Look I know it's an awful thing to think that parents were involved in some way, as a parent myself I know it's a terrible thing to think but when you do actually read up on the case and I mean the actual Police files which are publicly available, the only actual evidence found points to Madeleine having died in that apartment and from the minute that evidence was found the McCanns tried discredit it and why would they if they had no idea what happened to her? Like if they really were completely clueless and evidence that she may have died in the apartment came up wouldn't they want to investigate that?, also their Police Statements and their friends statements are very inconsistent too. It's about justice for a 3 year old little girl

Again, you may be right. I definitely do not believe they deliberately harmed her - why would they and what evidence is there for that?

If there was some kind of accident that they covered up I don't believe Maddie, if she understood, would want them to go to jail for years and leave her brother and sister without their parents. If an accident I think they have all suffered enough.

It wouldn't make their actions right or forgivable but to hang them out to dry would benefit no one in my opinion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Again, you may be right. I definitely do not believe they deliberately harmed her - why would they and what evidence is there for that?

If there was some kind of accident that they covered up I don't believe Maddie, if she understood, would want them to go to jail for years and leave her brother and sister without their parents. If an accident I think they have all suffered enough.

It wouldn't make their actions right or forgivable but to hang them out to dry would benefit no one in my opinion.

I don't believe they deliberately harmed her either but I certainly believe the truth should come out and they should face justice. Not only have they covered it up but look at all the money they've wasted, that's your money, tax payers money and it runs in to the millions now not to mention they tried to ruin Goncalo Amarals life as well, they need to face justice for all of those things imo

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't believe they deliberately harmed her either but I certainly believe the truth should come out and they should face justice. Not only have they covered it up but look at all the money they've wasted, that's your money, tax payers money and it runs in to the millions now not to mention they tried to ruin Goncalo Amarals life as well, they need to face justice for all of those things imo

That's my thinking really. I think it was an accident and if it had all come out at the time, I would feel awful for them as parents. I'd be pretty horrified about them going out and leaving the kids etc. but losing a child is worse than any prison sentence or other punishment so I wouldn't be that concerned about them facing the full force of the law.

But for everything they've done since? Something has to come of that. The message that covering something up, to this extent, is in any way OK... can't be allowed.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's my thinking really. I think it was an accident and if it had all come out at the time, I would feel awful for them as parents. I'd be pretty horrified about them going out and leaving the kids etc. but losing a child is worse than any prison sentence or other punishment so I wouldn't be that concerned about them facing the full force of the law.

But for everything they've done since? Something has to come of that. The message that covering something up, to this extent, is in any way OK... can't be allowed.

Exactly and it wouldn't have been either if it were a couple from a council estate or something

[chuff me dizzy]

From night 1 there was political interference in the McCann case ( Why no one knows,but it happened ) without the help they would have been locked up 10 yrs ago

As for Pat Brown ( a woman Ive had lots of conversations with ) Im not a fan, she pops in and out of the Maddie case when it suits her