[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

However.The Lib Dems unlike Labour actually have a position on Brexit.They want a re-run of the referendum.They're the stubborn remainers 'go to' party.

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

Totally agree.I'm just looking at it objectively in terms of why i think the Lib Dems will do better this time

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

Don't you think we should get a vote on the deal though? and also don't you think we should get answers about where the money that we paid into the EU is going to go and also how much we are going to have to pay to get out!

[Cherry Christmas]

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

Exactly, they pretty much went against everything their party stood for in order to get a sniff at power.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

That was a few years back now though and alot has changed.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't you think we should get a vote on the deal though? and also don't you think we should get answers about where the money that we paid into the EU is going to go and also how much we are going to have to pay to get out!

In theory maybe, but what choice is there? Most will want to be in the single market and that means open borders, something I am completely against. If we can be in the single market without open borders that would be ideal, but the EU are not going to sanction that. They want to make an example of us, although I did read something recently that certain countries will defend us on that.

The divorce settlement figure is absurd and there could certainly be negotiations around that.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

In theory maybe, but what choice is there? Most will want to be in the single market and that means open borders, something I am completely against. If we can be in the single market without open borders that would be ideal, but the EU are not going to sanction that. They want to make an example of us, although I did read something recently that certain countries will defend us on that.

The divorce settlement figure is absurd and there could certainly be negotiations around that.

Out of interest, if it was announced that we basically have zero trade deals and the UK was set for a permanent economic decline for the long foreseeable future, and there was a re-referendum before the deal was sealed, how would you vote?
The more I think about it, the more I lean towards libdems. a re-referendum based on the deals seems like a very good idea, so good infact that a referendum before the deals almost seems bizzare in hindsight! I think most (both leave and remain) could change their mind based on the circumstance