[the truth]

the left and the feminists always demand strong women in charge of everything, now theyve got one there legitimately on merit, they hate her and want rid lol

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The lib dem are in bed with Labour over Brexit and open borders. Can't see them being a viable choice.

With Tim Farron refusing to deny he would go into a coalition with the Tories if need be, I doubt people won't see what a squirming self serving twit he is.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You were being very scathing of the OP's point, you didn't particularly offer an opinion.

I was smiling when I typed it. You're mistaking my attempt at humour for me being scathing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You can't comment on any legal issue unless you're a lawyer or a judge. You can't comment on the military unless you're military personnel. You can't comment on the police unless you've worked for the police force. And you certainly can't comment on Theresa May unless you're Theresa May.

Them's just the rules.

Stop being silly TS.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

With Tim Farron refusing to deny he would go into a coalition with the Tories if need be, I doubt people won't see what a squirming self serving twit he is.

He's smarmy - reminds me of Blair. I detest Blair.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The lib dem are in bed with Labour over Brexit and open borders. Can't see them being a viable choice.

However.The Lib Dems unlike Labour actually have a position on Brexit.They want a re-run of the referendum.They're the stubborn remainers 'go to' party.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

However.The Lib Dems unlike Labour actually have a position on Brexit.They want a re-run of the referendum.They're the stubborn remainers 'go to' party.

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

[Tom4784]

Lib Dems are trash, I'd never vote for them after they sold their souls in the coalition and demanding another referendum is pointless. The Leaver camp have made their bed, now they must be made to lie in it. They shouldn't get a get out of jail free card for making the wrong choice.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

However.The Lib Dems unlike Labour actually have a position on Brexit.They want a re-run of the referendum.They're the stubborn remainers 'go to' party.

it is a position, but its a totally insane one,,,,now tim "treasonous"ferrett, jezza protest everything trivial for the sake of it "corbyn and nicola "jimmy cranky only policy is scottish independence " sturgeonwill have to actually produce some policies that stand up to scrutiny lol good luck with that...theyre a real bunch of clowns

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

Totally agree.I'm just looking at it objectively in terms of why i think the Lib Dems will do better this time

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

On principle I am totally against a re-run. The vote has been cast and it should not be manipulated by sore losers to suit them. That is not democracy in my opinion.

Don't you think we should get a vote on the deal though? and also don't you think we should get answers about where the money that we paid into the EU is going to go and also how much we are going to have to pay to get out!

[Cherie]

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

Exactly, they pretty much went against everything their party stood for in order to get a sniff at power.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Will people trust the Lib Dems to follow through on any of their policies, they blew it with tuition fees to get into bed with Dave

That was a few years back now though and alot has changed.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't you think we should get a vote on the deal though? and also don't you think we should get answers about where the money that we paid into the EU is going to go and also how much we are going to have to pay to get out!

In theory maybe, but what choice is there? Most will want to be in the single market and that means open borders, something I am completely against. If we can be in the single market without open borders that would be ideal, but the EU are not going to sanction that. They want to make an example of us, although I did read something recently that certain countries will defend us on that.

The divorce settlement figure is absurd and there could certainly be negotiations around that.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

In theory maybe, but what choice is there? Most will want to be in the single market and that means open borders, something I am completely against. If we can be in the single market without open borders that would be ideal, but the EU are not going to sanction that. They want to make an example of us, although I did read something recently that certain countries will defend us on that.

The divorce settlement figure is absurd and there could certainly be negotiations around that.

Out of interest, if it was announced that we basically have zero trade deals and the UK was set for a permanent economic decline for the long foreseeable future, and there was a re-referendum before the deal was sealed, how would you vote?
The more I think about it, the more I lean towards libdems. a re-referendum based on the deals seems like a very good idea, so good infact that a referendum before the deals almost seems bizzare in hindsight! I think most (both leave and remain) could change their mind based on the circumstance

[DemolitionRed]

I think the Tories will keep a majority but they probably won't get a landslide. They will take some seats of Labour and lose a few to the Lib Dems.

[DemolitionRed]

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-...ries-1-4980541
If you want to get rid of the Torys there is a good voting guide here as to how you should vote in your constituency.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Stop being silly TS.

Never

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Lib Dems are trash, I'd never vote for them after they sold their souls in the coalition and demanding another referendum is pointless. The Leaver camp have made their bed, now they must be made to lie in it. They shouldn't get a get out of jail free card for making the wrong choice.

Punish them all.