[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Legalising weed, well there goes the next generation in a haze of smoke!

Christ - that stuff stinks - will never get the attraction. Why so many youngsters want to live in a semi-permanent haze is beyond me - might explain why so many were anti-Brexit - I believe it makes them paranoid.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Christ - that stuff stinks - will never get the attraction. Why so many youngsters want to live in a semi-permanent haze is beyond me - might explain why so many were anti-Brexit - I believe it makes them paranoid.

It's healthier than alcohol or smoking, has benefits for creativity and brain function, it can kill cancer cells and it can improve athletic ability. but sure, go ahead with your wild generalisations that are ultimately hypocritical because you'd cry foul if anyone made out that the leaver camp was filled with old alcholics with addled brains and livers despite the fact that it's what you are doing here.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's healthier than alcohol or smoking, has benefits for creativity and brain function, it can kill cancer cells and it can improve athletic ability. but sure, go ahead with your wild generalisations that are ultimately hypocritical because you'd cry foul if anyone made out that the leaver camp was filled with old alcholics with addled brains and livers despite the fact that it's what you are doing here.

I know of someone who smoked a lot of weed and was so fuddled in the head they killed a pet kitten by standing on it's head while they were out of their head. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident, but it still makes me sick to think of it and the person who did it has struggled to come to terms with it. So no, there aren't always benefits to it. Drugs are dangerous and if cannibis is ever legalised it should be only for medical use and strictly supervised.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I know of someone who smoked a lot of weed and was so fuddled in the head they killed a pet kitten by standing on it's head while they were out of their head. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident, but it still makes me sick to think of it and the person who did it has struggled to come to terms with it. So no, there aren't always benefits to it.

Isn't the production of skunk a much stronger form that is doing much more damage.

Not much point I worrying about physical issues such as cancer if people are going to suffer with long term mental health issues including dementia. The dementia may well get them first.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Isn't the production of skunk a much stronger form that is doing much more damage.

Not much point I worrying about physical issues such as cancer if people are going to suffer with long term mental health issues including dementia. The dementia may well get them first.

Again, if you legalise it you can remove the risk of tainted batches by introducing standards and regulations regarding it's production. Cannabis as a whole is dramatically safer than the legal alternatives such as alcohol.

To use fringe cases as an argument against legalising it when they wouldn't exist if it was legalised is quite silly.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I know of someone who smoked a lot of weed and was so fuddled in the head they killed a pet kitten by standing on it's head while they were out of their head. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident, but it still makes me sick to think of it and the person who did it has struggled to come to terms with it. So no, there aren't always benefits to it. Drugs are dangerous and if cannibis is ever legalised it should be only for medical use and strictly supervised.

For every anecdote like that, there's about a hundred that pertain to someone intoxicated on alcohol. Maybe we should all supervised whilst we have a drink? Perhaps we could just ban it altogether? Ah, but that isn't going to happen because it's so ingrained within our culture, despite the fact it's far more damaging than weed.

People who are against the legalisation of cannabis are on the wrong side of history. The tide is quite rightly turning in many western countries. Britain isn't progressive enough yet for either the Tories or Labour to campaign on its legalisation for recreational use - in fact I think it'd be electoral suicide - but I give it twenty years before this is no longer a debate, but reality.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

For every anecdote like that, there's about a hundred that pertain to someone intoxicated on alcohol. Maybe we should all supervised whilst we have a drink? Perhaps we could just ban it altogether? Ah, but that isn't going to happen because it's so ingrained within our culture, despite the fact it's far more damaging than weed.

People who are against the legalisation of cannabis are on the wrong side of history. The tide is quite rightly turning in many western countries. Britain isn't progressive enough yet for either the Tories or Labour to campaign on its legalisation for recreational use - in fact I think it'd be electoral suicide - but I give it twenty years before this is no longer a debate, but reality.

This is so true, except there's a stronger chance that whatever stupid thing that happened while you were drunk wasn't actually an accident, just seemed like a good idea in the drunken haze. Alcohol changes personalities far more drastically than smoking weed does in my experience

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

For every anecdote like that, there's about a hundred that pertain to someone intoxicated on alcohol. Maybe we should all supervised whilst we have a drink? Perhaps we could just ban it altogether? Ah, but that isn't going to happen because it's so ingrained within our culture, despite the fact it's far more damaging than weed.

People who are against the legalisation of cannabis are on the wrong side of history. The tide is quite rightly turning in many western countries. Britain isn't progressive enough yet for either the Tories or Labour to campaign on its legalisation for recreational use - in fact I think it'd be electoral suicide - but I give it twenty years before this is no longer a debate, but reality.

Coming from a home with an alcoholic parent, I'm inclined to agree that maybe we should.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Coming from a home with an alcoholic parent, I'm inclined to agree that maybe we should.

Nanny state springs to mind here Jaxie

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Nanny state springs to mind here Jaxie

Ah but the lives that suffer.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is so true, except there's a stronger chance that whatever stupid thing that happened while you were drunk wasn't actually an accident, just seemed like a good idea in the drunken haze. Alcohol changes personalities far more drastically than smoking weed does in my experience

Absolutely, you're more likely to fall victim to an assault from someone who's drunk than someone who's high

Originally Posted by jaxie

Coming from a home with an alcoholic parent, I'm inclined to agree that maybe we should.

And that's perfectly understandable, my point is however is that since alcohol is a far more damaging drug - both physically and socially - than weed, it makes very little sense to oppose the legalisation of the latter, but not care as much about the former. Evidently given your experience this doesn't apply to you, which is fine, but what I'd then say is that since alcohol is certainly not going to be criminalised anytime soon, I see very little reason why cannabis shouldn't be legalised too. The positives far outweigh the benefits.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I know of someone who smoked a lot of weed and was so fuddled in the head they killed a pet kitten by standing on it's head while they were out of their head. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident, but it still makes me sick to think of it and the person who did it has struggled to come to terms with it. So no, there aren't always benefits to it. Drugs are dangerous and if cannibis is ever legalised it should be only for medical use and strictly supervised.

Sounds like a bad batch to me, something that wouldn't really be an issue if legalised since production would become standardised and controlled.

Your argument is quite weak if you aren't willing to acknowledge that alcohol and cigerettes are far more dangerous. There's more violent incidents when it comes to alcohol and both cost the NHS millions in long term treatment for liver and lung related illnesses.

Cannabis is far more safer than alcohol and cigerettes, the only difference between them was that the former was made illegal purely for political motivations rather than health and safety related reasons which would now be void given the vast amounts of research which support the fact that Cannabis is safer to consume than it's ilk and offers a crap ton of health benefits.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Sounds like a bad batch to me, something that wouldn't really be an issue if legalised since production would become standardised and controlled.

Your argument is quite weak if you aren't willing to acknowledge that alcohol and cigerettes are far more dangerous. There's more violent incidents when it comes to alcohol and both cost the NHS millions in long term treatment for liver and lung related illnesses.

Cannabis is far more safer than alcohol and cigerettes, the only difference between them was that the former was made illegal purely for political motivations rather than health and safety related reasons which would now be void given the vast amounts of research which support the fact that Cannabis is safer to consume than it's ilk and offers a crap ton of health benefits.

Well thanks for the diagnosis, but the only physician I listen to, is Dr Feelgood.

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[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well thanks for the diagnosis, but the only physician I listen to, is Dr Feelgood.

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You can't beat a good bit of nostalgia - especially music.