[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ronald.

Though I think the phrase 'cause fragile men to fume' is particularly provocative. Phrases like that aren't particularly useful or clever. R.

As a man, I'm allowed to point out how fragile men that get upset over charity showings are.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As a man, I'm allowed to point out how fragile men that get upset over charity showings are.

If it was the other way around we'd be hearing about this for a couple of weeks, and Newstations would be running with it like crazy, I think we all know that would be the case and I think that we all agree that would be wrong for any event to bar women from a universal event, so why is it okay to do it to men?

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't think that's a good comparison though, Wonder Woman is a feminist icon and the film itself is female focused both in front and behind the camera, it makes sense to have a female only charity screening for it but a male screening wouldn't make much sense for Batman since he's a universal character in terms of appeal.

I wouldn't be against a male viewing if it was for charity like the WW screenings are though but I don't think Batman as an example is a very good one.

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are you trying to tell me that you would have started watching DC / Marvel stuff if the male members of your family weren't into it? I'm skeptical...

That said, my 7 year old daughter is adamant that she wants to see Wonder Woman . I'm hesitant though because I would love it if she got into DC and Marvel -- BUT -- I'm not convinced that a World War One setting is the best starting point. It'll bore her and put her off forever .

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

exactly, it's counter productive in a way to women superheros being seen as good as male ones imo My own son loves all these movies and he never sees it as oh she's a woman she's not as good which is great, i would hate for that to change

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Chewy

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

I love BvS extended cut. I just... try really hard to ignore Jesse Eisenberg.

Though to be fair I don't even think he's a bad character - just a horrendous Lex Luthor

[Alf]

"Fragile men"

Wonder Woman needs to get back in the kitchen, where she belongs.

[T*]

idk about this
I know it's for a good cause and everything but we need less segregation not more
like if it was for say batman or something and the showing was just for guys and for a male charity idk if it'd be as well received


it don't feel comfy

[T*]

oh someone already said what I said

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by T*

idk about this
I know it's for a good cause and everything but we need less segregation not more
like if it was for say batman or something and the showing was just for guys and for a male charity idk if it'd be as well received


it don't feel comfy

Exactly, it encourages men to continue on with the casual sexism like Alfs post above yours and that's not really helpful in moving forward imo

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, it encourages men to continue on with the casual sexism like Alfs post above yours and that's not really helpful in moving forward imo

Sorry, I thought it was a competition for who could be the most sexist, and I really like winning.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Alf

Sorry, I thought it was a competition for who could be the most sexist, and I really like winning.

I'm sure you do

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Chewy

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

BvS was a bit of a mess but I genuinely believe that if Suicide Squad was a Marvel film, it would have automatically been better received. It's flaws were pretty much the same as any Marvel film going but Marvel films get repeated free passes on their flaws.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

I think you're looking into it too deeply. It's a charity women's only screening of a superhero film featuring a hero that's seen as a feminist icon. If any man looked at this story and thought that they were being excluded just because there was one female only showing at one branch of one cinema chain then I'd tell them to be less self entitled.

The world would not blink if they did the same thing for the latest Fast and the Furious for men because this story only got attention because the idea of feminism riles fragile people up.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

If it was the other way around we'd be hearing about this for a couple of weeks, and Newstations would be running with it like crazy, I think we all know that would be the case and I think that we all agree that would be wrong for any event to bar women from a universal event, so why is it okay to do it to men?

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

I strongly disagree with that, it would have been much more of a story imo

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I strongly disagree with that, it would have been much more of a story imo

Nah, there'd be no traction in the media for it. Had it been an actual case of discrimination then yes it would be but any attempts at making it an actual story would be shot down because it would ultimately be a charity event.

Stories about feminism will always get a lot of clicks and that's why the same wouldn't happen in reverse.

[Jamie89]

It reminds me a bit of when loads of people complained about the Yorkie 'it's not for girls' advert for being sexist so yeah there'd probably be complaints as well if it was the other way around, but regardless I don't see the problem with this type of thing at all. Even if it is technically sexist, perspective is needed in that noone is actually disadvantaged or harmed by this in any way. The disadvantage is that men won't be able to watch a Wonder Woman movie at a specific time at a specific screening, so it's very weak to compare it to to issues relating to equal rights (like some of the facebook comments are). And actually, I think the reason they're doing it in the first place is as a marketing ploy because the majority of superhero/action movie audiences are male and the inherent sexism that still exists in Hollywood - so the sexism argument could go much deeper than this screening (this stunt only needing to exist because of the already prevalent sexism against women in the medium), and so it's a hard sell to have a movie in this genre with a female lead, so this is probably their way of trying to attract the attention of women in order to get more of them to see it, so if it works in that respect it's probably quite a clever move (and could also lead to more female orientated action movies and therefore less need for stunts like this in the first place).

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

It reminds me a bit of when loads of people complained about the Yorkie 'it's not for girls' advert for being sexist so yeah there'd probably be complaints as well if it was the other way around, but regardless I don't see the problem with this type of thing at all. Even if it is technically sexist, perspective is needed in that noone is actually disadvantaged or harmed by this in any way. The disadvantage is that men won't be able to watch a Wonder Woman movie at a specific time at a specific screening, so it's very weak to compare it to to issues relating to equal rights (like some of the facebook comments are). And actually, I think the reason they're doing it in the first place is as a marketing ploy because the majority of superhero/action movie audiences are male and the inherent sexism that still exists in Hollywood - so the sexism argument could go much deeper than this screening (this stunt only needing to exist because of the already prevalent sexism against women in the medium), and so it's a hard sell to have a movie in this genre with a female lead, so this is probably their way of trying to attract the attention of women in order to get more of them to see it, so if it works in that respect it's probably quite a clever move (and could also lead to more female orientated action movies and therefore less need for stunts like this in the first place).

The Yorkie thing was a major ad campaign. Nobody would have known about this cinema doing a men's only viewing for charity because the only reason why this story got traction is because it's an opportunity for fragile people to rage over feminism.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

The idea of only men going to see a comic book movie? Surely not